Clint Hill

[QPRDave]

I agree the goal (4th I think it was) where he stretched to cut out the ball and missed was the kind of thing you expect to see in a Sunday League match! He was brilliant the last ten games of last season, but anyone who's seen him play before will know he was playing well above his level! I would be very surprised if Nelsen didn't start on Saturday, yes he's past his best but has bags of Premiership experience and may well be able to marshall the rest of our motley crew into something resembling a back four! He'll provide a bit of leadership if nothing else!

so you think nelsen will be quicker than hill? Did you notice AT just trotting behind Dyer for that goal? (3rd I think btw) Dyer was all alone

[Rich]

Well if our POTY is finished after one game Taarabt must be finished too then, after the wasteful performance by him, with his abysmal shooting, and terrible decision making again........

Taarabt had an off game, he is what 23? Hill played above himself towards the tail end of last season and now looks very vulnerable. I even witnessed Clint and Hughes making eye contact towards the end of saturdays game and hughes eyes said "I know you're trying mate but it's not good enough". The same no doubt would have been said verbally to the whole team. Clint, however, is my take on the future. He is a top bloke & he shows passion of that there's no doubt. I noticed him shouting as no one reacted to his tackle leading to swansea's first but passion alone isn't enough. If it was I would be down there training for a game as I guess another 5000 fans would.

[Gtleighsr3]

clint can do a job as cover

[Rich]

clint can do a job as cover

what magazine?

[Gtleighsr3]

na if we have injury,when we have a cb sent off,sub player now,not full game.

[QPRDave]

Taarabt had an off game, he is what 23? Hill played above himself towards the tail end of last season and now looks very vulnerable. I even witnessed Clint and Hughes making eye contact towards the end of saturdays game and hughes eyes said "I know you're trying mate but it's not good enough". The same no doubt would have been said verbally to the whole team. Clint, however, is my take on the future. He is a top bloke & he shows passion of that there's no doubt. I noticed him shouting as no one reacted to his tackle leading to swansea's first but passion alone isn't enough. If it was I would be down there training for a game as I guess another 5000 fans would.

Rich I think Clint will admit himself that his time is coming, and I won't object too much if we sign a couple of CBs this window, but people saying Nelsen will be so much better are so wrong, at least 3 of those goals on sat were because of no midfield cover, and a Samba, Vidic, combination would have struggled to stop them scoring. My point about Clint and AT is that after one game Clint is deemed useless yet Adel has had what?...39 games in the prem and been good in.........3? Yet POTY from last season must go.

clint can do a job as cover

Agree

[Rich]

Rich I think Clint will admit himself that his time is coming, and I won't object too much if we sign a couple of CBs this window, but people saying Nelsen will be so much better are so wrong, at least 3 of those goals on sat were because of no midfield cover, and a Samba, Vidic, combination would have struggled to stop them scoring. My point about Clint and AT is that after one game Clint is deemed useless yet Adel has had what?...39 games in the prem and been good in.........3? Yet POTY from last season must go.




Agree

Some would argue that you have a point Dave and you're right in that Adel has been more bad than good since we were promoted. What I'm saying is that Adel has time on his side and is a very good player. Clint has had his time and is looking tired and limited. I love the blokes passion though.

[qprted]

there

there is a lot of annalytical stuff here,but the reality is if wee get a draw against norwich we will be getting somewhere,swansea played absolutely brilliant and would have destroyed anybody that day ,so lets just try to enjoy some success,if we could finish 14 th that would be sp wonderfull..

[QPRDave]

Some would argue that you have a point Dave and you're right in that Adel has been more bad than good since we were promoted. What I'm saying is that Adel has time on his side and is a very good player. Clint has had his time and is looking tired and limited. I love the blokes passion though.

Well yeah no arguing with that mate

[QPRDave]

there is a lot of annalytical stuff here,but the reality is if wee get a draw against norwich we will be getting somewhere,swansea played absolutely brilliant and would have destroyed anybody that day ,so lets just try to enjoy some success,if we could finish 14 th that would be sp wonderfull..

Yeah fair enough ted, they were very clinical 6 shots scored 5 goals I read somewhere

[Connell10]

i think if we get one good comanding centre half in and partner him with ned,hill or anton you will find alot of our denfensive fock ups will stop pretty dam quick! We need a leader of men in the middle of defence not a load of *****s!

[72bus]

It's the reason players aren't signed by clubs for their entire careers. They are given 1 year, 5 years or anything in between because players lose form, get old, injured or just don't progresss. Hill is at the point where his legs have caught up with him and he doesn't cut it as a Premier League defender. Those that don't see it are either not into football or have obtained an emotional tie to a player where regardless of performance they won't allow their eyes and brain to comprehend what they did actually just see......several times....

agree with all u say , hill and ferdy worry me both to slow and mistake prone

[ahR]

It's the reason players aren't signed by clubs for their entire careers. They are given 1 year, 5 years or anything in between because players lose form, get old, injured or just don't progresss. Hill is at the point where his legs have caught up with him and he doesn't cut it as a Premier League defender. Those that don't see it are either not into football or have obtained an emotional tie to a player where regardless of performance they won't allow their eyes and brain to comprehend what they did actually just see......several times....

Brilliantly put big fella.....

[stanistheman]

Rich I think Clint will admit himself that his time is coming, and I won't object too much if we sign a couple of CBs this window, but people saying Nelsen will be so much better are so wrong, at least 3 of those goals on sat were because of no midfield cover, and a Samba, Vidic, combination would have struggled to stop them scoring. My point about Clint and AT is that after one game Clint is deemed useless yet Adel has had what?...39 games in the prem and been good in.........3? Yet POTY from last season must go.




Agree

Taarabt had a reasonable number of decent games last season. Newcastle home, wolves home and away, Chelsea home, arsenal home, spurs home, Swansea home, were some of his decent performances. He also did well against Man Utd home when he came on as a sub. Just because he didn't score more than 2 goals it doesn't mean he wasn't playing well. Yes, he could have done better, but Warnock's treatment did not help his confidence.

[Yousef]

Hill is still better than Fedinand depite all his negativities.