Joey Barton F off

[EYR]

I would say come summer our joey will be gone!

Don't bank on it

[hermitage10]

We knew what kind of guy we were signing. His comments are out of order but he is an outspoken person. His actions need to speak now on the pitch

[Brian Wilson]

Despite Barton been better than all our other midfielders (maybe not Faurlin) I reckon we probably would have had more points on the board by now without him but...Warnock has to take the blame for bringing him in...he should have known what could happen with his ego...hopefully Hughes has a better way of getting the best from him.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Despite Barton been better than all our other midfielders (maybe not Faurlin) I reckon we probably would have had more points on the board by now without him but...Warnock has to take the blame for bringing him in...he should have known what could happen with his ego...hopefully Hughes has a better way of getting the best from him.

You think if Derry was playing we'd of had more

Dream on

[QPRDave]

Can I ask the question.....Was Joey Barton a Neil Warnock signing?

[rangerforevereastcote]

Must have been no?

[QPRDave]

Well I don't know ranger, I mean we have seen this before at the club, and I remember Warnock saying during an interview that Tony was ringing him up with suggestions on who we could sign.
Thought it was strange that NW was saying how close we were to signing Parker,almost as if that was his choice.
Now we have got JB on twitter laying into him, now for all Joey's faults he doesn't normally #### off "football people"....... does he?
We also seemed to have "itk" people on here hinting it seems for ages that he had no respect for Warnock, and i think today backs that up

[Brian Wilson]

You think if Derry was playing we'd of had more

Dream on

obviously very hard to say for sure, we can only speculate but we had a great team spirit last year which has served clubs like Norwich and Swansea very well. Think Warnock loved the idea of for once on his career finally being able to buy "name" players like Barton and SWP but they maybe were not the correct fit for the club at this stage.

[stainrodisalegend]

Well I don't know ranger, I mean we have seen this before at the club, and I remember Warnock saying during an interview that Tony was ringing him up with suggestions on who we could sign.
Thought it was strange that NW was saying how close we were to signing Parker,almost as if that was his choice.
Now we have got JB on twitter laying into him, now for all Joey's faults he doesn't normally #### off "football people"....... does he?
We also seemed to have "itk" people on here hinting it seems for ages that he had no respect for Warnock, and i think today backs that up

I think this is what was being hinted at when Warno was still manager and you - from memory - was questioning that. As you say, further evidence to confirm it. The very kind of players that NW needed to make us a prem club were the v ones that it seems he struggled to manage.

For what it is worth my personal take on Warno this season was that he changed in all the wrong ways. He mellowed out and became Mr Nice Guy when it was his anger and passion that made him a really good manager. If he needed to change it was bringing in a better quality of coach who understood about diet regimes, high stamina training, tactical plans etc.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Well I don't know ranger, I mean we have seen this before at the club, and I remember Warnock saying during an interview that Tony was ringing him up with suggestions on who we could sign.
Thought it was strange that NW was saying how close we were to signing Parker,almost as if that was his choice.
Now we have got JB on twitter laying into him, now for all Joey's faults he doesn't normally #### off "football people"....... does he?
We also seemed to have "itk" people on here hinting it seems for ages that he had no respect for Warnock, and i think today backs that up

I think not and I tell you why, warnock didn't let the last lot bring players in so no way would he let them now, I think the Parker thing a dig in that he wishes he'd got him over Barton , hinting to Barton that he'd thinks Parker much better
You know for me it all started to go really wrong after warnock slated faurlin and I wonder if that's why Barton fell out with him as he seemed to get on well with faurlin, what has transpired since last week that there are a lot of the newer players didn't like the way he did things, look t the way barton got on with hill and Orr would suggest Barton not alone

[QPRDave]

I think this is what was being hinted at when Warno was still manager and you - from memory - was questioning that. As you say, further evidence to confirm it. The very kind of players that NW needed to make us a prem club were the v ones that it seems he struggled to manage.

For what it is worth my personal take on Warno this season was that he changed in all the wrong ways. He mellowed out and became Mr Nice Guy when it was his anger and passion that made him a really good manager. If he needed to change it was bringing in a better quality of coach who understood about diet regimes, high stamina training, tactical plans etc.

No I haven't questioned this before stainrod it was just seeing all this bad feeling going on today that has made me think about it.
Yeah maybe you're right re, trying to change, maybe it's time for him to go out on the promotion he got us, and do some media work and sit back and enjoy life a bit.

[QPRDave]

Yes it did cross my mind that Warnock's Parker comments were a dig at him and that he (Parker) was his preferred choice
So what is your take on the Taarabt situation?
I was again having read some comments on here under the impression that JB had led the
ostracizing of him if that's the right word.

[stainrodisalegend]

No I haven't questioned this before stainrod it was just seeing all this bad feeling going on today that has made me think about it.
Yeah maybe you're right re, trying to change, maybe it's time for him to go out on the promotion he got us, and do some media work and sit back and enjoy life a bit.

Apologies, must have mixed you up with another poster. Its certainly the case that various players including Barton questioned Warnock's training techniques to his face at "clear the air" meetings. And its also the case that Fernandes sought the views of senior players after the debacle of the first MK Dons game. But what was Barton to say, that Keith Curle was a tactical genius and a hero of the temperance movement?

Much as I will always be grateful for what Neil did for us - a magnificent achievement - I wd hope that once he gets over the hurt and humiliation he must feel for getting sacked, he will start to reflect that maybe at least a little of that was down to his performance this season and not exclusively to the faults of others.

[rangerforevereastcote]

If that's true Dave then again the manager had to deal with it, unfortunately warnock didn't show balls to Barton to tell him to back off adel ( if that's true)

Any employee will push its up to the manager when to show who's in charge

[stainrodisalegend]

It was all a tangled web if what we are told is true. Barton was supposedly anti-Adel before he was anti-Warnock. This was all part of the problem - a manager looking for one last jolly season in the top flight but suddenly finding himself with several v big egos (some of whom were fighting each other) and he lacked either the youthful vigour or the top flight reputation to stamp his authority on the lot of them. Think most of us wd agree footballers as a rule are a bunch of overpaid spoilt brats, but managers are paid a lot of money these days precisely to get on top of all that. I was extremely sorry that Warnock was sacked but wd think more highly of him now if he acknowledged his own failings rather than blaming everyone else but himself.