Case for a new stadium/Swansea comparison

[superhoop67]

try and get PP to level that for a football ground

[superhoop67]

Lumme!!!! A hill. Blimey. Best call off those bulldozers now.

Isambard - Stop the construction of the Great Western. A hill is in our way!

well man of knowledge let us in on these sites where we will be welcomed with open arms

[W12_Ranger]

i wasn't claiming that we move,suggesting that we shouldn't just rule it out straight away

What is there to rule out, you've made an empty suggestion....give some substance to your idea other wise its a pointless post

I've already asked Nodge whom I'm assuming is putting something together as he says there are plenty of locales. This debate has been raging for years, it would be nice if someone gave the impression they know what they are talking about.

I am genuinely interested, just get frustrated at suggestions without substance.

[Gerryhatrick]

One thing is for sure, for as long as we continue at LR in it's current state, we will not progress. It is far more likely than we will fail to maintain our current status.

Fans won't return, and we won't attract new fans because they want to be proud of their stadium and how it compares with others.

Promising players will also choose Brighton, Bolton, Wigan, Swansea, Derby, etc, because they want to play in 'nice' stadiums for clubs that show ambition.

[blueboy]

what do you want?there is LARGE an area of land,next to Uxbridge CC...its next to the A40,not to far way from the tube station at Uxbridge..on google earth,it is also next door to where they have not long built a new athletics track,plus 3G astro football pitches...the only house are located to the north,where the road that comes off the A40 goes down to Uxbridge..the tube line cuts along the south of the land.During the summer,its hosts,i think,the Hillingdon show,as well as a summer football festival.
Afew years ago,there was aplan to build some sort of theme park there,but these plans were blocked.

[W12_Ranger]

One thing is for sure, for as long as we continue at LR in it's current state, we will not progress. It is far more likely than we will fail to maintain our current status.

Fans won't return, and we won't attract new fans because they want to be proud of their stadium and how it compares with others.

Promising players will also choose Brighton, Bolton, Wigan, Swansea, Derby, etc, because they want to play in 'nice' stadiums for clubs that show ambition.

Really...I'm astounded

[W12_Ranger]

what do you want?there is LARGE an area of land,next to Uxbridge CC...its next to the A40,not to far way from the tube station at Uxbridge..on google earth,it is also next door to where they have not long built a new athletics track,plus 3G astro football pitches...the only house are located to the north,where the road that comes off the A40 goes down to Uxbridge..the tube line cuts along the south of the land.During the summer,its hosts,i think,the Hillingdon show,as well as a summer football festival.
Afew years ago,there was aplan to build some sort of theme park there,but these plans were blocked.

Well done....its a start!

So if there was plans to build a theme park there, what makes you think a football stadium will get approval?

[pblock]

One thing is for sure, for as long as we continue at LR in it's current state, we will not progress. It is far more likely than we will fail to maintain our current status.

Fans won't return, and we won't attract new fans because they want to be proud of their stadium and how it compares with others.

Promising players will also choose Brighton, Bolton, Wigan, Swansea, Derby, etc, because they want to play in 'nice' stadiums for clubs that show ambition.

Cant see this being the case, I can't ever recall caring about another sides stadium, and that it would sway someone to support a team

Sorry to say but there is no way someone would choose Wigan or Bolton over another club becuase they play in a nicer stadium. With all due respect to those areas in comarison to London it's a bit of a no brainer

[blueboy]

Well done....its a start!

So if there was plans to build a theme park there, what makes you think a football stadium will get approval?

as far as i am aware,a theme park operates 7 days a week..plus,this was a few years ago.who knows why sometimes planning approval is given,and sometimes it isn't..bungs?people at the council with an interest?promises given to the local council regarding noise?jobs?

[Gerryhatrick]

Cant see this being the case, I can't ever recall caring about another sides stadium, and that it would sway someone to support a team

Sorry to say but there is no way someone would choose Wigan or Bolton over another club becuase they play in a nicer stadium. With all due respect to those areas in comarison to London it's a bit of a no brainer

For every fan that attends most games, there are probably 5-10 fans who don't come to LR regularly for various reasons. Sometimes it's cost, but often it's due to the overall experience of atmosphere and facilities. Why else did Reading, Brighton and Swansea and many others more than double their capacity?

Also, if you are an 10 year old lad living in north/west london choosing which team to support, then yes, the stadium has an influence.

Players will feel more comfortable opting for a club with obvious ambition to stay in the top flight, and the stadium experience is part of this, it shows commitment. Possibly influnced CMS and Graham, although no evidence.

[blueboy]

For every fan that attends most games, there are probably 5-10 fans who don't come to LR regularly for various reasons. Sometimes it's cost, but often it's due to the overall experience of atmosphere and facilities. Why else did Reading, Brighton and Swansea and many others more than double their capacity?

Also, if you are an 10 year old lad living in north/west london choosing which team to support, then yes, the stadium has an influence.

Players will feel more comfortable opting for a club with obvious ambition to stay in the top flight, and the stadium experience is part of this, it shows commitment. Possibly influnced CMS and Graham, although no evidence.

i think what you say could be true of some supporters,especially floating supporters

[Mooo block]

Are you joking about Coventry? The stadium is empty every match. Like Bolton, Wigan and others.

The teams you mentioned that it has worked for are the ones where they are the only club in the city. It helps.

It might be empty and souless but they still get more bums on seats even at lower championship level. I'm not suggesting for a minute that our stadium reflects that lifeless bowl just that with better facilities more fans will come. I have been inside that stadium as it happens running conferences and inside it is worlds apart from ours. Shopping arcade, sponsors lounges, catering facility, hotel etc etc makes LR look very very **** indeed

[pblock]

For every fan that attends most games, there are probably 5-10 fans who don't come to LR regularly for various reasons. Sometimes it's cost, but often it's due to the overall experience of atmosphere and facilities. Why else did Reading, Brighton and Swansea and many others more than double their capacity?

Also, if you are an 10 year old lad living in north/west london choosing which team to support, then yes, the stadium has an influence.

Players will feel more comfortable opting for a club with obvious ambition to stay in the top flight, and the stadium experience is part of this, it shows commitment. Possibly influnced CMS and Graham, although no evidence.

I would suggest that Reading, & Swansea have doubled their crowds through becoming more successful on the pitch and having a lack of competition from other clubs not simply because they have a new stadium.

If you are a 10 year old growing up in North / West London I would suggest firstly it's your family that influences who you support. I don't think a 10 year old in a family of Spurs fans would support Arsenal because they have a nicer stadium. The other way a 10 year old will pick a club if there family aren't massively into football would be by whose doing well at the time, and throuh watching SKY or MOTD, not because of the stadium.

To a point I get what you're saying regarding a club showing ambition, but I don't think it is the be all and end all of a players decision and in fact would be a fair way down the list when a player makes a decision. For what's it worth in my opinion Graham went to Swansea because he knew Rofgers from his time at Watford (I believe Rodgers signed him) CMS i'm not sure about but I can't see someone turning down a shot at the Prem to play in a nicer stadium every other week and forego playing at many better stadiums like Old Trafford, Emirates etc.

[WeAreQPR12]

This is where I stand regarding a new ground.

I think it would be a good thing 2 increase revenue and they could lower match day prices a tad, however saying that I don't really give a toss as I like where we are. I'm more concerned with the playing staff. At the moment I feel like i'm buying an asda product at waitrose prices, hence why i'll only make a few games and i'll have to settle for watching us on sky sports.

[qprjames]

For every fan that attends most games, there are probably 5-10 fans who don't come to LR regularly for various reasons. Sometimes it's cost, but often it's due to the overall experience of atmosphere and facilities. Why else did Reading, Brighton and Swansea and many others more than double their capacity?

Also, if you are an 10 year old lad living in north/west london choosing which team to support, then yes, the stadium has an influence.

Players will feel more comfortable opting for a club with obvious ambition to stay in the top flight, and the stadium experience is part of this, it shows commitment. Possibly influnced CMS and Graham, although no evidence.

Of course it plays a part. Lets be honest, our facilities as a club are pretty atrocious.

As with regard to the land debate.....give it a break will you. Theres a million and one different locations. Simple fact is people need to take the emotion out of the move. Theres a reason why pretty much every club has moved/ significantly expanded and improved their stadiums in the last 20/30 years. If we're not careful we will get overtaken by clubs such as Wigan, Brighton ect all because were to worried about progressing. And don't give me that rubbish that they all have bigger potential fan bases, London happens to be not only the most populated city in the UK by an absolute mile but also the biggest in Europe so despite there being numerous clubs there is plenty of potential fans.