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  • rangersroar
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 1952

    #16
    Originally posted by Morris
    Also, why would he have to agree personal terms if its a loan deal? His personal terms will be the same as it's a loan move? It's down to the clubs to sort out who pays what in terms of wages.

    Would love it to be true but it just doesn't add up!
    Good point.

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    • W12_Ranger
      Platinum Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 11447

      #17
      Originally posted by Morris
      Also, why would he have to agree personal terms if its a loan deal? His personal terms will be the same as it's a loan move? It's down to the clubs to sort out who pays what in terms of wages.

      Would love it to be true but it just doesn't add up!
      Because he'd have to agree to drop in his present wages before the clubs would agree on the terms of the loan deal

      ie> 110k a week to say 90k we agree to pay 2/3rds at 60k

      (just an example before some window licker on here says we will never pay 60k)

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      • Morris
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 8965

        #18
        Originally posted by W12_Ranger
        Because he'd have to agree to drop in his present wages before the clubs would agree on the terms of the loan deal

        ie> 110k a week to say 90k we agree to pay 2/3rds at 60k

        (just an example before some window licker on here says we will never pay 60k)
        Never heard of that one before, but that's not to say it isn't true.

        Could explain the personal terms bit.

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        • W12_Ranger
          Platinum Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 11447

          #19
          Originally posted by Morris
          Never heard of that one before, but that's not to say it isn't true.

          Could explain the personal terms bit.
          His drop in wage would have to be his agreement with Liverpool because that's who he is contracted to...at least that's my theory any way.

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          • Gerryhatrick
            Silver Seat
            • Sep 2010
            • 1706

            #20
            Originally posted by Gerryhatrick
            Anyone know. Did he move to Merseyside lock stock, or has he kept his London gaff and commutes?
            Just wondered if he ever really settled up north which may explain his form decline. Maybe a move back to London is just what he wants.
            no-one knows then I guess?

            He is only a year into a 4 yr contract, 20 appearances, 3 goals, and on £5.7 million p.a. plus endorsements and benefits. Seems an amazing package. Unless he takes a massive wage cut to go out on loan, he'll spend a lot of time on the Liverpool bench, and he strikes me as someone who wants to play regularly.

            I'm guessing he wants a move back to London, and may be prepared to take a big cut to do it.

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            • Phil's R's
              Apprentice
              • Mar 2011
              • 150

              #21
              Well if cole does come on a season loan i won't be moaning, i have always
              thought a 100% fit joe cole is a very good player, it's all good lads, better then a few weeks back when we signed bloody nobody, but an odd one this being on the offy L.F.C. page as just a rumour....wait & see i suppose.



              campbell at number 39
              that leave number 9.................?????

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              • Mellowhoop
                Gold Seat
                • Apr 2010
                • 5698

                #22
                Walkonby has quashed rumours linking Joe cole to qpr
                http://twitter.com/Mellowhoop

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                • spank the monkey
                  Bronze Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 452

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Gerryhatrick
                  Anyone know. Did he move to Merseyside lock stock, or has he kept his London gaff and commutes?Just wondered if he ever really settled up north which may explain his form decline. Maybe a move back to London is just what he wants.


                  i can just see him now, topping up his oyster card and charging down the platform to get the 07.07 st pancrass - liverpool lime street service every day!
                  I don't care about morals 'cause the world's insane and we're all to blame anyway

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                  • 80sCasual
                    CCG
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9231

                    #24
                    It say's Neil Warnock only has to agree personal terms, good luck Neil i hope you're a good ********ter.
                    Queens Park Rangers
                    NPower Champions 2010/2011

                    PREMIER LEAGUE 2011 - ETERNITY (Oh well got that wrong, we'll be back though)

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                    • Gerryhatrick
                      Silver Seat
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1706

                      #25
                      Originally posted by spank the monkey


                      i can just see him now, topping up his oyster card and charging down the platform to get the 07.07 st pancrass - liverpool lime street service every day!
                      An amusing thought,
                      but as an east end London Lad made good I would imagine he would probably use a private jet or chopper once a week. Wouldn't mix with riff-raff on public transport. Thats if he has kept his roots down here.

                      IIRC Tevez commutes a little further every week. :=B:

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                      • JeanD
                        Apprentice
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 182

                        #26
                        I would imagine he uses his chopper more than once a week.

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                        • MattyRangers
                          Slimmer of The Year
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 24914

                          #27
                          Originally posted by JeanD
                          I would imagine he uses his chopper more than once a week.
                          You seen his Mrs? I reckon its more like a couple of times a day mate!
                          You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                          • mikeyhg
                            Bronze Seat
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 264

                            #28
                            Are you being serious? We're all meant to be football fans and therefore know how football works. A Player, unless he completely renegotiaties his contract, usually leading to an extenstion of it, can not take a pay cut from his current employer (liverpool). Liverpool though can agree to subsidise some of or all of his wages if he was to move on loan but the notion that he will drop to 90k from 110k and then liverpool pay a third is absurd. The player will not willingly take a paycut for a contract of the same length and nor will Liverpool extend his contract and pay him silly amounts of money for a player who doesn't even make their sub bench (hence why shafting him out on loan).

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                            • MattyRangers
                              Slimmer of The Year
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 24914

                              #29
                              Originally posted by mikeyhg
                              Are you being serious? We're all meant to be football fans and therefore know how football works. A Player, unless he completely renegotiaties his contract, usually leading to an extenstion of it, can not take a pay cut from his current employer (liverpool). Liverpool though can agree to subsidise some of or all of his wages if he was to move on loan but the notion that he will drop to 90k from 110k and then liverpool pay a third is absurd. The player will not willingly take a paycut for a contract of the same length and nor will Liverpool extend his contract and pay him silly amounts of money for a player who doesn't even make their sub bench (hence why shafting him out on loan).
                              And you know what Joe cole would and wouldnt do how? If it meant dropping down to a "measley" 90k a week in order for him to get some PL playing time I'm pretty sure he might consider this offer
                              You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                              • mikeyhg
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 264

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MattyRangers
                                And you know what Joe cole would and wouldnt do how? If it meant dropping down to a "measley" 90k a week in order for him to get some PL playing time I'm pretty sure he might consider this offer
                                He is still under contract at Liverpool and therefore a paycut wouldn't put him at a new club to make this a possibility. and be honest, QPR nor anyone else has said, look we like Joe Cole but to do this, you have to completely renegotiate his contract, get him on lower wages, and then we'll pay only a percentage of that, just for a loan deal. What do liverpool get out of that? And don't say saving 30k a week because that's not really much incentive.

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