Ledesma

[Robsondinho]

Just a quick pedantic point but where are we pulling these facts that he failed in Serie C?

As the facts state that he played a season on loan in C1, half a season with his co-owners in Serie B, and is now back with Genoa in Serie A.

[Jamie]

And Novara who he played with last season in C1 are currently top of Serie B and looking good for Serie A

[Robsondinho]

jamie,people think because he didnt play for ac milan in italy he must be crap. no one on this message board has seen him play since he left us, but some claim his crap by just reading wikipedia. who cares if he didn't play for ac milan, we are qpr for christ sake and I can bet he is better then clarke.

[Bluehoop]

jamie,people think because he didnt play for ac milan in italy he must be crap. no one on this message board has seen him play since he left us, but some claim his crap by just reading wikipedia. who cares if he didn't play for ac milan, we are qpr for christ sake and I can bet he is better then clarke.

Good words indeed Robbo. Even as a teenager he was better than Clarke - and also, his talent gives us some flair, which we have little of besides Adel and Buzz.

[Goddard]

Good words indeed Robbo. Even as a teenager he was better than Clarke - and also, his talent gives us some flair, which we have little of besides Adel and Buzz.

And he's out for another 3/4 weeks.

[MYU]

The point here is that he will be on a free, not cost much on wages and a risk worth taking. He may not get a game but at least he gives us options that we wouldn't have.

He can score, create chances and a joy to watch.

[sirpiechucker]

jamie,people think because he didnt play for ac milan in italy he must be crap. no one on this message board has seen him play since he left us, but some claim his crap by just reading wikipedia. who cares if he didn't play for ac milan, we are qpr for christ sake and I can bet he is better then clarke.

But at the same time some people think he is still good because of his appearances for us a few seasons ago. He might be great but he also might be rubbish.

Without having watching at least half a dozen times over the last couple of seasons I don't know how anyone can say for certain whether he is good or not. We've all watched matches where Hall, Clarke and Agyemang look like world beaters but we've also seen matches where they have played terribly - without having seen a player a number of times how can we say if he is good or not?

[Bluehoop]

And he's out for another 3/4 weeks.

Still more mobile and more talented than a 100% fit Clarke

[Nodge70]

I've seen Ledesma enough with my own eyes to know he's no improvement on what we already have.

Does anyone really believe that if he'd been doing any sort of business for Genoa or even Novara that he wouldn't have been snapped up by the middling Italian clubs (Chievo, Atalanta, Udinese, Napoli etc.).

Talk about spinning........

[bushcelt1]

I've seen Ledesma enough with my own eyes to know he's no improvement on what we already have.

Does anyone really believe that if he'd been doing any sort of business for Genoa or even Novara that he wouldn't have been snapped up by the middling Italian clubs (Chievo, Atalanta, Udinese, Napoli etc.).

Talk about spinning........

nail on head

[Robsondinho]

Im not saying his good or bad, just find it funny how people (not all) are judging a player just because he is on loan at a seria whatever club. Wikipedia has many people thinking they are cyber Jose Mourinho's.

[SM1882]

I've seen Ledesma enough with my own eyes to know he's no improvement on what we already have.

Does anyone really believe that if he'd been doing any sort of business for Genoa or even Novara that he wouldn't have been snapped up by the middling Italian clubs (Chievo, Atalanta, Udinese, Napoli etc.).

Talk about spinning........

You could have said the same about Taarabt.

If he is so good why did no Premiership team make a move for him? Not even any other Championship clubs? Or League One clubs now you come to think of it?

Warnock might help Ledesma flourish, who knows.

[JonDoeman]

You could have said the same about Taarabt.

If he is so good why did no Premiership team make a move for him? Not even any other Championship clubs? Or League One clubs now you come to think of it?

Warnock might help Ledesma flourish, who knows.

Yep, that is what he is good at, making players play.
Great Boss!

[Nodge70]

You could have said the same about Taarabt.

If he is so good why did no Premiership team make a move for him? Not even any other Championship clubs? Or League One clubs now you come to think of it?

Warnock might help Ledesma flourish, who knows.

They did. Plus teams in France. None were prepared to meet his terms.

NB - terms does not always equate to salary.

When Warnock last wanted a wide man, he pursued MacAnuff very stridently. When he was after a central striker, he pursued Walters.

It takes a huge leap of faith to believe that Warnock has suddenly recalibrated his sights of his own volition from these players to someone previously released by ourselves to ply his trade amongst, in the main, Serie C1.

[MYU]

They did. Plus teams in France. None were prepared to meet his terms.

NB - terms does not always equate to salary.

You mean we beat clubs from the premiership and france to meet he's terms?