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  • QPRDave
    The number 10
    • Mar 2009
    • 32060

    #121
    Originally posted by WeAreQPR12
    Warburton is not the answer and we all deep down know it. When we lose to Swansea and finish 15th or 16th that is a very poor return for a club that has paid reasonable salaries. I'd rather ainsworth over Eustace. I don't want any remaining staff members of marks. For 600k a year, if we match Warburtons salary then I'd expect a big improvement
    He was the best and only good appointment by out of what 5 , 6 managers chosen by this lot.
    As for salaries apparently we can't pay those now.

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    • QPROslo
      Silver Seat
      • Dec 2010
      • 1137

      #122
      Originally posted by QPRDave
      We can get Jürgen Klopp in, but if the board don't back managers with realistic funds to make the playoffs or fight for promotion ( which we were told was the aim) then it's all just scam
      What do you mean? The board is backing the manager, but we need to comply with the financial ceiling set by FFP. It would be stupid to provide so much funding we end up back in the old mess we have taken five years to drag ourselves out of, with a hefty fine in the process.

      The financial year of 2020/2021 delivered a deficit of ca £20m pre sales of Eze. We are allowed to lose £13m a year. How do you come to a conclusion the board isn't backing the manager and it is all a scam if there isn't enough funds for a promotion push? Please explain!

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      • QPRDave
        The number 10
        • Mar 2009
        • 32060

        #123
        Originally posted by QPROslo

        What do you mean? The board is backing the manager, but we need to comply with the financial ceiling set by FFP. It would be stupid to provide so much funding we end up back in the old mess we have taken five years to drag ourselves out of, with a hefty fine in the process.

        The financial year of 2020/2021 delivered a deficit of ca £20m pre sales of Eze. We are allowed to lose £13m a year. How do you come to a conclusion the board isn't backing the manager and it is all a scam if there isn't enough funds for a promotion push? Please explain!
        No apparently we now have to sell just to stand still, and we can't build on this team or season.
        it's why I asked with ffp being relaxed we seem to be the only club not able to operate positively

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        • QPRDave
          The number 10
          • Mar 2009
          • 32060

          #124
          The fact we are looking at untested managers at this level certainly doesn't look good

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          • SheepRanger
            Administrator
            • Apr 2018
            • 8334

            #125
            It we sold £25m of players this summer I'd be amazed if we spent more than £5m on transfer fees. Most will cover this seasons overspend. We need to get as much as possible for Dickie, Dieng and Willock and hope we have our sights on L1 and free transfer players.

            We made heavy weather of this season with a decent squad. With the best players heading out the door I think its going to be very hard to get a top half finish next season.

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            • SheepRanger
              Administrator
              • Apr 2018
              • 8334

              #126
              Originally posted by QPRDave
              The fact we are looking at untested managers at this level certainly doesn't look good
              If Liam Manning brings Scott Twine with him I'll overlook his managerial inexperience.

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              • QPRDave
                The number 10
                • Mar 2009
                • 32060

                #127
                Originally posted by SheepRanger
                It we sold £25m of players this summer I'd be amazed if we spent more than £5m on transfer fees. Most will cover this seasons overspend. We need to get as much as possible for Dickie, Dieng and Willock and hope we have our sights on L1 and free transfer players.

                We made heavy weather of this season with a decent squad. With the best players heading out the door I think its going to be very hard to get a top half finish next season.
                Exactly.
                Yet we were told get through the first few seasons and then things get better financially.
                So what's happened is my question?
                How can teams around us manage yet we can't?
                Our budget this season was bottom half yet still we have to sell?
                We are told the board want playoffs, but it seems we are nothing but a nursery club to me

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                • QPRDave
                  The number 10
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 32060

                  #128
                  Originally posted by SheepRanger

                  If Liam Manning brings Scott Twine with him I'll overlook his managerial inexperience.
                  Who can the Newport boss bring?
                  Maybe Oldham's gaffer can find someone to bring with him ​​​​​​

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                  • QPRDave
                    The number 10
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 32060

                    #129
                    Warbs in line for Charlton job

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                    • SheepRanger
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 8334

                      #130
                      Originally posted by QPRDave

                      Exactly.
                      Yet we were told get through the first few seasons and then things get better financially.
                      So what's happened is my question?
                      How can teams around us manage yet we can't?
                      Our budget this season was bottom half yet still we have to sell?
                      We are told the board want playoffs, but it seems we are nothing but a nursery club to me
                      I think they decided that our players had progressed sufficiently that a few extra signings would put us into the play offs. Those stars being Austin, Gray, Johansen and Hendricks have all flopped and would have cost us a lot of money, probably £20k per each. Those four probably cost us £5m in wages and loans fees in their own! That will need to be paid back in player sales this summer.

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                      • stanistheman
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11151

                        #131
                        Originally posted by QPRDave

                        But you think getting a manager from the same level as jfh or lower will not be outwitted by managers at this level ?
                        I never said that I want a manager from a lower league. I would rather Farke, Jokanovic or someone that has a bit more experience at this or similar level.

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                        • stanistheman
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 11151

                          #132
                          Originally posted by SheepRanger

                          If Liam Manning brings Scott Twine with him I'll overlook his managerial inexperience.
                          If Twine can replicate his L1 form in the Championship then he could elevate the team into the top 6.

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                          • stanistheman
                            Platinum Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 11151

                            #133
                            Originally posted by SheepRanger

                            I think they decided that our players had progressed sufficiently that a few extra signings would put us into the play offs. Those stars being Austin, Gray, Johansen and Hendricks have all flopped and would have cost us a lot of money, probably £20k per each. Those four probably cost us £5m in wages and loans fees in their own! That will need to be paid back in player sales this summer.
                            I keep reading that Austin and Gray flopped, but how many starts did they get and how many as part of a front 2 ?

                            Austin and Dykes as a pairing did very well last season, but we rarely saw that partnership this season.

                            I agree Johansen has flopped as a permanent signing and the least said about the loan of Hendrick the better.

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                            • ArcticHoop
                              Silver Seat
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 1557

                              #134
                              Must watch Wycombe- Mk Dons today, so can see how Manning´s team play

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                              • gator
                                Gold Seat
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 6791

                                #135
                                So far I am not overly optimistic about any of the names bandied around to replace MW, any hire will be a risk as would retaining Warburton, I sure hope this works out but I must say I am concerned!
                                @gatorTFC

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