Stoke Match Thread

[Abseits]

We have started games slowly all season which is a huge problem. Either the players can't be arsed, they aren't listening to the manager, the manager can't motivate them or they aren't prepared properly from the warm up and not at the required intensity from the first whistle. Either way a change of manager is needed. He's not nasty enough, his tactics are poor, picking players out of form or on reputation. Plus we haven't improved and based on form since January, we must be in the bottom 3! We can't carry that on into next season.

Yeah the slow starts are baffling. People bang on about our budget and expectations and fair do's, maybe we can't match the Parachute Money Teams in terms of quality and player-pedigree. But...... we should at least be able to match them up for effort and application. Luton are flying high based purely on high-tempo and energy. Absolutely disgraceful how many points we've spewed away due to just not having the requisite intensity and drive.

[Dono77]

We have started games slowly all season which is a huge problem. Either the players can't be arsed, they aren't listening to the manager, the manager can't motivate them or they aren't prepared properly from the warm up and not at the required intensity from the first whistle. Either way a change of manager is needed. He's not nasty enough, his tactics are poor, picking players out of form or on reputation. Plus we haven't improved and based on form since January, we must be in the bottom 3! We can't carry that on into next season.

[dave58]

On yesterday
POOR,AWFUL, DISAPPOINTING,, Season finished with a whimper lack of Passion, Ideas. a Plan, Players who didn't seem care Barbet found it hard to pass to a R's player the rest not much better Chair the most disappointing player since his return from AFCON,

[dave58]

will de wijs come back?

Originally posted by Dono77 View Post
Keep dieng, dunne, dickie, de wijs, Albert, field, dozzell, amos, dykes, chair and willock. Happily get rid of everyone else.
day dreaming

[Mem]

I think you mean Swansea were 4-1 up. Stokes defence is pretty tight tbf

Last week Stoke were 4-1 up and ended up drawing that is how good their defence is yet we can't score one.

[cross it Dave]

We've only got one person in our history that moved this club forward and made us better ... the late Jim Gregory. There will never be another one like him.

I could not agree more, he put us on the map, even if he was a Fulham fan and a friend of my grand parents.

[Martinmalta]

We've only got one person in our history that moved this club forward and made us better ... the late Jim Gregory. There will never be another one like him.

[gator]

I'm thinking 2-3 seasons time mate, not particularly next season, obviously, it's a time, yet again, to try and re vamp everything and that takes time , I can accept that, if the team and club is moving forward, my patience will be endless, but I must see forward progression, positive attitude, effort and commitment from management and players alike, not too much to ask as someone who has emotionally and financially put 50 years and counting, into this football club, is it?

Yes I have seen many ups and downs with this club in many years of supporting, how many times have you come to this point and asked a similar question in your long time supporting this club!

[QPRDave]

He's our player so no reason why not. Plus barbet is off. Not even going to mention the guy on loan who the manager thought was better than jordi but has proved he isn't. At least jordi gave 100%. That lad from wolves was just keeping his fitness up cos he didn't do anything else.

Mind you lets not forget how injury prone he was

[KevC59]

I agree to a certain extent, the supportive and patient thing only lasts so long, it's all about results and if a youthful exciting team has us in a relegation battle fans will turn on whoever the manager is and whichever players are wearing the hoops!

I'm thinking 2-3 seasons time mate, not particularly next season, obviously, it's a time, yet again, to try and re vamp everything and that takes time , I can accept that, if the team and club is moving forward, my patience will be endless, but I must see forward progression, positive attitude, effort and commitment from management and players alike, not too much to ask as someone who has emotionally and financially put 50 years and counting, into this football club, is it?

[gator]

You would have to go back to last year to read anything different in the the match day threads, seems like a life time ago now, MW has to go ,as do a lot of the squad, that's a given, give us a forward looking manager, with a youthful squad full of energy, playing progressive football, and we will be supportive and patient as always, but please please please no more false dawn's

I agree to a certain extent, the supportive and patient thing only lasts so long, it's all about results and if a youthful exciting team has us in a relegation battle fans will turn on whoever the manager is and whichever players are wearing the hoops!

[KevC59]

You would have to go back to last year to read anything different in the the match day threads, seems like a life time ago now, MW has to go ,as do a lot of the squad, that's a given, give us a forward looking manager, with a youthful squad full of energy, playing progressive football, and we will be supportive and patient as always, but please please please no more false dawn's

[Dono77]

He's our player so no reason why not. Plus barbet is off. Not even going to mention the guy on loan who the manager thought was better than jordi but has proved he isn't. At least jordi gave 100%. That lad from wolves was just keeping his fitness up cos he didn't do anything else.

[QPRDave]

To many players going thru the motions not wanting to get injured . Need players that will bust a gut for the club .. warbs insistence on keep ball in our own half has cost us . Take a risk if we had won today and beaten Sheffield friday then who knows . Just don't see the passion in this team . Time to get yr coat warbs and take yr tricky tacky with you.

I get that if we have possession the other team can't score but messing about with it in our own half is always going to end badly
And it bores the crap out of me

[QPRDave]

Keep dieng, dunne, dickie, de wijs, Albert, field, dozzell, amos, dykes, chair and willock. Happily get rid of everyone else.

Will de wijs come back?