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  • Les Ferdinand DOF - The Stats

    Posted by Superhoopdownunder on LFW and well worth sharing I think:

    Below are the permanent signings made whilst Ferdinand has been our Director of Football since early in 2015.

    Only a very few successes out of 88 permanent signings

    Season Player Cost
    2015-16 George Butler Trainee
    2015-16 Nathan Corkery Trainee
    2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer
    2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed
    2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee
    2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed
    2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer
    2015-16 Joseph N'Guessan Free transfer
    2015-16 Axel Prohouly Free transfer
    2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee
    2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000
    2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000
    2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed
    2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer
    2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer
    2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed
    2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed
    2015-16 Tom Rosenthal Undisclosed
    2015-16 Dániel Tőzsér Free transfer
    2015-16 Joshua Wallen Free transfer
    2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000
    2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed
    2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000
    2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed
    2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000
    2016-17 Conor Hudnott Trainee
    2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000
    2016-17 Chris Paul Free transfer
    2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000
    2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer
    2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed
    2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer
    2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed
    2016-17 Alex Finney Free transfer
    2016-17 Danny Rowe Free transfer
    2016-17 Brandon Adams Trainee
    2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000
    2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000
    2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000
    2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed
    2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown
    2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee
    2016-17 Marcin Brzozowski Trainee
    2016-17 Dan Darbyshire Trainee
    2016-17 Odysseus Alfa Trainee
    2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
    2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
    2017-18 Giles Phillips Free
    2017-18 Josh Scowen Free
    2017-18 Chay Tilt Free
    2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free
    2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed
    2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000
    2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed
    2017-18 Zenon Stylianides Free
    2017-18 Deshane Dalling Free
    2018-19 Joe Felix Free transfer
    2018-19 Charlie Fox Trainee
    2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer
    2018-19 Ben Wells Free transfer
    2018-19 Ali Omar Free transfer
    2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer
    2018-19 Charlie Rowan Free transfer
    2018-19 Lewis Walker Free transfer
    2018-19 Franklin Domi Free transfer
    2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free
    2019-20 Dylan Duncan Free
    2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000
    2019-20 Lee Wallace Free
    2019-20 Dominic Ball Free
    2019-20 Conor Masterson Free
    2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free
    2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free
    2019-20 Todd Kane Free
    2019-20 Marc Pugh Free
    2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free
    2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free
    2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer
    2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000
    2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000
    2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000
    2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer
    2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000
    2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer
    2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000
    2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000
    2020-21 Manasse Mampala Free transfer
    2020-21 Sinclair Armstrong Undisclosed

    Our League positions since he became DoF (he took over when we were 17th in EPL)
    2014-15 20th in EPL
    2015-16 12th in Championship
    2016-17 18th
    2017-18 16th
    2018-19 19th
    2019-20 13th
    2020-21 Currently 19th in Championship

    We are only going one way and that is not up.

    We have changed managers quite a few times and still are performing the same so it can't be the manager.
    The only other common denominators since 2015 are Les Ferdinand, Lee Hoos and the Owners.

    I believe Lee Hoos has done a terrific job improving our financial position each season.

    Whatever we think of the Owners they are still paying the bills and contributing each month to keep us in existence.
    Unfortunately they don't seem too interested in the club anymore.
    Ideally Amit would be more hands on and then we would not need a DoF.

    The DoF role in my opinion is not required (could be covered by Amit and Lee Hoos) and not supported through the transfers above and our ongoing decline through a poor squad and results.

    In my opinion Ferdinand has had 6 years to improve matters and he has not. He has bought poor players, many costing us a lot of money.
    We still don't have good full backs, a quality central midfielder or a goalscorer.
    He has recruited managers that have not met the mark or followed a clear direction. Each manager changes strategy - which should be set by the DoF.
    Les Ferdinand is a far bigger problem than Warburton and needs to be sacked now.

  • #2
    DOF picks the managers & Manager picks players he wants! Plays & picks players in his system, So wouldn’t say it’s all down to DOF

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    • #3
      It's definitely the manager. With the players we have we should be 12th. The DoF has done a sterling job in getting our net player costs (fees and wages) down from £billions to roughly £75, he should be elevated from Sir Les to Lord Ferdinand of White City in my opinion.

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      • #4
        Dof liaise with managers and scouts to sign players . A lot of those players would have been wanted by various managers down the years .Feel free to post the signings made by Warnock / Hughes / Redknapp when Fernandez bought the club . That’s the real reason we are where we are today .

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jeffqpr View Post
          DOF picks the managers & Manager picks players he wants! Plays & picks players in his system, So wouldn’t say it’s all down to DOF
          No it’s def not all down to the DOF. But it’s also not zero to do with him either. His performance has been pony - players and managers Just look at that list FFS.

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          • #6
            If you actually go through that list properly , you can see the vast majority of those players are free transfers and trainees . That’s the world we have been living in since ffp kicked in . We have been trying to cut the wage bill for the last 3/4 seasons , that will obviously lead to a bigger turn over of players .it’s actually an achievement to still be playing at this level and having to bring our own youngsters through the system is an added bonus . It seems strange that some fans have completely wiped the Fernandez crazy spending era from their memory but are happy to lay the blame at door of the ones that have had to try to fix the destruction he caused .

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            • #7
              Looking at that list, one thing stands out. Total lack of quality.

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              • #8
                Some of the blame lays with players as well lots of them giving less than 100%

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                • #9
                  so if you take away the kids and the u21's this is what you are left with


                  2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer - Nut job - But most were happy when he signed
                  2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed - Rated in the lower leagues when signed -
                  2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee - Made it to the first team
                  2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed - Turned out to be a good player for us Sold for Profit
                  2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer -Club legend?
                  2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee - Still at the club
                  2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000 - Liked by most while here and left because of family reasons
                  2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000 - Sold on For 100 percent Profit
                  2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed - Served the club well
                  2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer - Not good enough
                  2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer - Not good enough
                  2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed - Wouldn't sign a new contract
                  2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed - Sold for Profit - Loved by most
                  2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000 ok - had our pants pulled down by this one!
                  2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed - Did ok and sold for profit
                  2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000 - A Hasslebank signing
                  2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed - Did ok for us despite not being liked!
                  2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000 Not sure we paid 1.5 but never settled despite looking ok when he played
                  2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000 - poor signing
                  2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000 - Did ok but injury prone
                  2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer - 19.5 million profit - pays for every other player on this list if you like!
                  2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed - Good player played out of position
                  2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer - Our keeper for the next few years
                  2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed - did ok - especially against fulham
                  2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000 - Mugged by Man Utd
                  2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000 - Good signing and sold on for profit
                  2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000 - served us well - but wanted to be a starter
                  2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed - Great player for us never new why we let him go
                  2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown - First team reg and will make money on him
                  2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee sold for profit?
                  2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
                  2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
                  2017-18 Giles Phillips Free - nothing lost or gained
                  2017-18 Josh Scowen Free - did a job for us
                  2017-18 Chay Tilt Free nothing lost or gained
                  2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free - did a job -experienced pro we could do with his sort now
                  2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed - Jury still out
                  2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000 - See ben gladwin/ cone washington
                  2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed - if the greedy B would sign a contract we could make some money
                  2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer - think we got a fee for him - Warburtons choice not to play him
                  2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer - did a great job - experienced pro
                  2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free - we should sell him asap
                  2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000 -too many keepers
                  2019-20 Lee Wallace Free - too injury prone
                  2019-20 Dominic Ball Free - good player should play instead of Cameron
                  2019-20 Conor Masterson Free - will be a good player
                  2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free - too many keepers
                  2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free - done a job but needs to hang up his boots now
                  2019-20 Todd Kane Free - not as bad as some might say.
                  2019-20 Marc Pugh Free - did ok and we couldn't afford to keep him
                  2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free - just breaking into the first team
                  2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free - Why?
                  2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer - Hard to tell - been injured
                  2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000 - Miss him at the moment
                  2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000 - If we played the right formation he might actually do ok
                  2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000 - Will be good
                  2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer - Nothing lost.
                  2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000 - did we pay £2mill? i think he is the best striker we have atm and should play with dykes
                  2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer - nostalgia signing
                  2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000 - needs to play more
                  2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000 - could be the one!

                  i Can't see how it is the DOF fault - when the manager pick the team!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by 3London View Post
                    so if you take away the kids and the u21's this is what you are left with


                    2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer - Nut job - But most were happy when he signed
                    2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed - Rated in the lower leagues when signed -
                    2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee - Made it to the first team
                    2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed - Turned out to be a good player for us Sold for Profit
                    2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer -Club legend?
                    2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee - Still at the club
                    2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000 - Liked by most while here and left because of family reasons
                    2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000 - Sold on For 100 percent Profit
                    2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed - Served the club well
                    2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer - Not good enough
                    2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer - Not good enough
                    2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed - Wouldn't sign a new contract
                    2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed - Sold for Profit - Loved by most
                    2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000 ok - had our pants pulled down by this one!
                    2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed - Did ok and sold for profit
                    2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000 - A Hasslebank signing
                    2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed - Did ok for us despite not being liked!
                    2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000 Not sure we paid 1.5 but never settled despite looking ok when he played
                    2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000 - poor signing
                    2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000 - Did ok but injury prone
                    2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer - 19.5 million profit - pays for every other player on this list if you like!
                    2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed - Good player played out of position
                    2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer - Our keeper for the next few years
                    2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed - did ok - especially against fulham
                    2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000 - Mugged by Man Utd
                    2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000 - Good signing and sold on for profit
                    2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000 - served us well - but wanted to be a starter
                    2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed - Great player for us never new why we let him go
                    2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown - First team reg and will make money on him
                    2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee sold for profit?
                    2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
                    2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
                    2017-18 Giles Phillips Free - nothing lost or gained
                    2017-18 Josh Scowen Free - did a job for us
                    2017-18 Chay Tilt Free nothing lost or gained
                    2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free - did a job -experienced pro we could do with his sort now
                    2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed - Jury still out
                    2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000 - See ben gladwin/ cone washington
                    2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed - if the greedy B would sign a contract we could make some money
                    2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer - think we got a fee for him - Warburtons choice not to play him
                    2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer - did a great job - experienced pro
                    2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free - we should sell him asap
                    2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000 -too many keepers
                    2019-20 Lee Wallace Free - too injury prone
                    2019-20 Dominic Ball Free - good player should play instead of Cameron
                    2019-20 Conor Masterson Free - will be a good player
                    2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free - too many keepers
                    2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free - done a job but needs to hang up his boots now
                    2019-20 Todd Kane Free - not as bad as some might say.
                    2019-20 Marc Pugh Free - did ok and we couldn't afford to keep him
                    2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free - just breaking into the first team
                    2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free - Why?
                    2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer - Hard to tell - been injured
                    2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000 - Miss him at the moment
                    2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000 - If we played the right formation he might actually do ok
                    2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000 - Will be good
                    2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer - Nothing lost.
                    2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000 - did we pay £2mill? i think he is the best striker we have atm and should play with dykes
                    2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer - nostalgia signing
                    2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000 - needs to play more
                    2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000 - could be the one!

                    i Can't see how it is the DOF fault - when the manager pick the team!
                    We got £ 4 . 5 mill Chery ? Really ?

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                    • #11
                      Don't envy Sir Les' job. One hell of a mess to clean up, no real player development system in place, no money. Has not been pleasant but we are still in Championship and now have players coming through.

                      Easy to be critical with hindsight but only poor managerial appointment on the face of it was Ollie and stories suggest that was more an Uncle Tony decision.

                      Personally think more a matter of expectations. Budget wise we have a small budget and our current league position reflects that budget. We have no right to expect to have a good quality squad. We spent a few million on strikers and they are not world beaters, no surprise. Particularly with strikers a few million buys you next to nothing these days. We needed bodies with the hope they might improve as we had literally nobody up top. I am frustrated with our current run and Warburton's seeming reluctance to try anything new.

                      Need to look long term. Only way we will see significant improvement is a new ground and investment that comes with it. Until we reach that promised land, and that is years in the future, we are a small Championship/League One side. We will have some highs and also some lows.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 3London View Post
                        so if you take away the kids and the u21's this is what you are left with


                        2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer - Nut job - But most were happy when he signed
                        2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed - Rated in the lower leagues when signed -
                        2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee - Made it to the first team
                        2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed - Turned out to be a good player for us Sold for Profit
                        2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer -Club legend?
                        2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee - Still at the club
                        2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000 - Liked by most while here and left because of family reasons
                        2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000 - Sold on For 100 percent Profit
                        2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed - Served the club well
                        2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer - Not good enough
                        2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer - Not good enough
                        2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed - Wouldn't sign a new contract
                        2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed - Sold for Profit - Loved by most
                        2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000 ok - had our pants pulled down by this one!
                        2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed - Did ok and sold for profit
                        2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000 - A Hasslebank signing
                        2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed - Did ok for us despite not being liked!
                        2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000 Not sure we paid 1.5 but never settled despite looking ok when he played
                        2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000 - poor signing
                        2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000 - Did ok but injury prone
                        2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer - 19.5 million profit - pays for every other player on this list if you like!
                        2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed - Good player played out of position
                        2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer - Our keeper for the next few years
                        2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed - did ok - especially against fulham
                        2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000 - Mugged by Man Utd
                        2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000 - Good signing and sold on for profit
                        2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000 - served us well - but wanted to be a starter
                        2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed - Great player for us never new why we let him go
                        2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown - First team reg and will make money on him
                        2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee sold for profit?
                        2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
                        2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
                        2017-18 Giles Phillips Free - nothing lost or gained
                        2017-18 Josh Scowen Free - did a job for us
                        2017-18 Chay Tilt Free nothing lost or gained
                        2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free - did a job -experienced pro we could do with his sort now
                        2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed - Jury still out
                        2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000 - See ben gladwin/ cone washington
                        2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed - if the greedy B would sign a contract we could make some money
                        2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer - think we got a fee for him - Warburtons choice not to play him
                        2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer - did a great job - experienced pro
                        2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free - we should sell him asap
                        2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000 -too many keepers
                        2019-20 Lee Wallace Free - too injury prone
                        2019-20 Dominic Ball Free - good player should play instead of Cameron
                        2019-20 Conor Masterson Free - will be a good player
                        2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free - too many keepers
                        2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free - done a job but needs to hang up his boots now
                        2019-20 Todd Kane Free - not as bad as some might say.
                        2019-20 Marc Pugh Free - did ok and we couldn't afford to keep him
                        2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free - just breaking into the first team
                        2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free - Why?
                        2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer - Hard to tell - been injured
                        2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000 - Miss him at the moment
                        2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000 - If we played the right formation he might actually do ok
                        2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000 - Will be good
                        2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer - Nothing lost.
                        2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000 - did we pay £2mill? i think he is the best striker we have atm and should play with dykes
                        2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer - nostalgia signing
                        2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000 - needs to play more
                        2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000 - could be the one!

                        i Can't see how it is the DOF fault - when the manager pick the team!
                        Good analysis there , there’s no doubt we had a bit of a punt with the parachute payments , with chery , polter and Washington etc. Which you would expect your club to do . From that point onwards we have cut our wages massively and brought through our own players .Give me that all day long over Barton , Swp , bosingwa and all the other wasters that came for the money .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 3London View Post
                          so if you take away the kids and the u21's this is what you are left with


                          2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer - Nut job - But most were happy when he signed
                          2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed - Rated in the lower leagues when signed -
                          2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee - Made it to the first team
                          2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed - Turned out to be a good player for us Sold for Profit
                          2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer -Club legend?
                          2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee - Still at the club
                          2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000 - Liked by most while here and left because of family reasons
                          2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000 - Sold on For 100 percent Profit
                          2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed - Served the club well
                          2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer - Not good enough
                          2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer - Not good enough
                          2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed - Wouldn't sign a new contract
                          2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed - Sold for Profit - Loved by most
                          2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000 ok - had our pants pulled down by this one!
                          2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed - Did ok and sold for profit
                          2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000 - A Hasslebank signing
                          2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed - Did ok for us despite not being liked!
                          2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000 Not sure we paid 1.5 but never settled despite looking ok when he played
                          2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000 - poor signing
                          2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000 - Did ok but injury prone
                          2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer - 19.5 million profit - pays for every other player on this list if you like!
                          2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed - Good player played out of position
                          2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer - Our keeper for the next few years
                          2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed - did ok - especially against fulham
                          2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000 - Mugged by Man Utd
                          2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000 - Good signing and sold on for profit
                          2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000 - served us well - but wanted to be a starter
                          2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed - Great player for us never new why we let him go
                          2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown - First team reg and will make money on him
                          2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee sold for profit?
                          2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
                          2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
                          2017-18 Giles Phillips Free - nothing lost or gained
                          2017-18 Josh Scowen Free - did a job for us
                          2017-18 Chay Tilt Free nothing lost or gained
                          2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free - did a job -experienced pro we could do with his sort now
                          2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed - Jury still out
                          2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000 - See ben gladwin/ cone washington
                          2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed - if the greedy B would sign a contract we could make some money
                          2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer - think we got a fee for him - Warburtons choice not to play him
                          2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer - did a great job - experienced pro
                          2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free - we should sell him asap
                          2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000 -too many keepers
                          2019-20 Lee Wallace Free - too injury prone
                          2019-20 Dominic Ball Free - good player should play instead of Cameron
                          2019-20 Conor Masterson Free - will be a good player
                          2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free - too many keepers
                          2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free - done a job but needs to hang up his boots now
                          2019-20 Todd Kane Free - not as bad as some might say.
                          2019-20 Marc Pugh Free - did ok and we couldn't afford to keep him
                          2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free - just breaking into the first team
                          2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free - Why?
                          2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer - Hard to tell - been injured
                          2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000 - Miss him at the moment
                          2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000 - If we played the right formation he might actually do ok
                          2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000 - Will be good
                          2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer - Nothing lost.
                          2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000 - did we pay £2mill? i think he is the best striker we have atm and should play with dykes
                          2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer - nostalgia signing
                          2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000 - needs to play more
                          2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000 - could be the one!

                          i Can't see how it is the DOF fault - when the manager pick the team!
                          Nice analysis - hard to argue with any of your comments on the players. The DOF has to take at the very least SOME responsibility for that lot - surely? Otherwise why have we got a DOF other than to deflect attention away from our absentee owners? Perish the thought!

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                          • #14
                            We are in a mess down to probably 2 people Fernandes and Philip Beard

                            Les track record not great but we’re going to be in a shite place for a long while.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Northolt_Rs View Post
                              Posted by Superhoopdownunder on LFW and well worth sharing I think:

                              Below are the permanent signings made whilst Ferdinand has been our Director of Football since early in 2015.

                              Only a very few successes out of 88 permanent signings

                              Season Player Cost
                              2015-16 George Butler Trainee
                              2015-16 Nathan Corkery Trainee
                              2015-16 Jay Emmanuel-Thomas Free transfer
                              2015-16 Ben Gladwin Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Osman Kakay Trainee
                              2015-16 Massimo Luongo Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Jamie Mackie Free transfer
                              2015-16 Joseph N'Guessan Free transfer
                              2015-16 Axel Prohouly Free transfer
                              2015-16 Olamide Shodipo Trainee
                              2015-16 Sebastian Polter £1,000,000
                              2015-16 Tjaronn Chery £2,250,000
                              2015-16 James Perch Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Tyler Blackwood Free transfer
                              2015-16 Oscar Gobern Free transfer
                              2015-16 Grant Hall Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Alex Smithies Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Tom Rosenthal Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Dániel Tőzsér Free transfer
                              2015-16 Joshua Wallen Free transfer
                              2015-16 Conor Washington $3,000,000
                              2015-16 Matt Ingram Undisclosed
                              2015-16 Abdenasser El Khayati £350,000
                              2016-17 Jake Bidwell Undisclosed
                              2016-17 Ariel Borysiuk £1,500,000
                              2016-17 Conor Hudnott Trainee
                              2016-17 Joel Lynch £1,200,000
                              2016-17 Chris Paul Free transfer
                              2016-17 Jordan Cousins £1,250,000
                              2016-17 Eberechi Eze Free transfer
                              2016-17 Yeni Ngbakoto Undisclosed
                              2016-17 Seny Dieng Free transfer
                              2016-17 Idrissa Sylla Undisclosed
                              2016-17 Alex Finney Free transfer
                              2016-17 Danny Rowe Free transfer
                              2016-17 Brandon Adams Trainee
                              2016-17 Sean Goss £500,000
                              2016-17 Luke Freeman £350,000
                              2016-17 Matt Smith £1,000,000
                              2016-17 Paweł Wszołek Undisclosed
                              2016-17 Ilias Chair Unknown
                              2016-17 Josh Bowler Trainee
                              2016-17 Marcin Brzozowski Trainee
                              2016-17 Dan Darbyshire Trainee
                              2016-17 Odysseus Alfa Trainee
                              2016-17 Aramide Oteh Free transfer
                              2017-18 Charlie Owens Free
                              2017-18 Giles Phillips Free
                              2017-18 Josh Scowen Free
                              2017-18 Chay Tilt Free
                              2017-18 Alex Baptiste Free
                              2017-18 Paul Smyth Undisclosed
                              2017-18 David Wheeler £500,000
                              2017-18 Bright Osayi-Samuel Undisclosed
                              2017-18 Zenon Stylianides Free
                              2017-18 Deshane Dalling Free
                              2018-19 Joe Felix Free transfer
                              2018-19 Charlie Fox Trainee
                              2018-19 Toni Leistner Free transfer
                              2018-19 Ben Wells Free transfer
                              2018-19 Ali Omar Free transfer
                              2018-19 Àngel Rangel Free transfer
                              2018-19 Charlie Rowan Free transfer
                              2018-19 Lewis Walker Free transfer
                              2018-19 Franklin Domi Free transfer
                              2019-20 Yoann Barbet Free
                              2019-20 Dylan Duncan Free
                              2019-20 Liam Kelly £50,000
                              2019-20 Lee Wallace Free
                              2019-20 Dominic Ball Free
                              2019-20 Conor Masterson Free
                              2019-20 Dillon Barnes Free
                              2019-20 Geoff Cameron Free
                              2019-20 Todd Kane Free
                              2019-20 Marc Pugh Free
                              2019-20 Stephen Duke-McKenna Free
                              2019-20 Marco Harboe Ramkilde Free
                              2020-21 George Thomas Free transfer
                              2020-21 Luke Amos £700,000
                              2020-21 Lyndon Dykes £2,000,000
                              2020-21 Rob Dickie £1,500,000
                              2020-21 Tom Carroll Free transfer
                              2020-21 Macauley Bonne £2,000,000
                              2020-21 Albert Adomah Free transfer
                              2020-21 Chris Willock £750,000
                              2020-21 Charlie Kelman £300,000
                              2020-21 Manasse Mampala Free transfer
                              2020-21 Sinclair Armstrong Undisclosed

                              Our League positions since he became DoF (he took over when we were 17th in EPL)
                              2014-15 20th in EPL
                              2015-16 12th in Championship
                              2016-17 18th
                              2017-18 16th
                              2018-19 19th
                              2019-20 13th
                              2020-21 Currently 19th in Championship

                              We are only going one way and that is not up.

                              We have changed managers quite a few times and still are performing the same so it can't be the manager.
                              The only other common denominators since 2015 are Les Ferdinand, Lee Hoos and the Owners.

                              I believe Lee Hoos has done a terrific job improving our financial position each season.

                              Whatever we think of the Owners they are still paying the bills and contributing each month to keep us in existence.
                              Unfortunately they don't seem too interested in the club anymore.
                              Ideally Amit would be more hands on and then we would not need a DoF.

                              The DoF role in my opinion is not required (could be covered by Amit and Lee Hoos) and not supported through the transfers above and our ongoing decline through a poor squad and results.

                              In my opinion Ferdinand has had 6 years to improve matters and he has not. He has bought poor players, many costing us a lot of money.
                              We still don't have good full backs, a quality central midfielder or a goalscorer.
                              He has recruited managers that have not met the mark or followed a clear direction. Each manager changes strategy - which should be set by the DoF.
                              Les Ferdinand is a far bigger problem than Warburton and needs to be sacked now.
                              I couldn't agree more. I have said it for a while now, but without the stats to back it up.
                              We have gone backwards since the day he came back , initially as an advisor to Fernandes, then as DoF.

                              He needs to be sacked along with MW. His wages could probably pay for 2 players.


                              Other clubs have a director of football which includes to a large extent how the teams should be playing and they scout for suitable players and managers who share the philosophy i.e. Brentford, Midtyland, Red Bulls clubs.
                              This way when managers and players move on the club can continue where they left off.

                              Yes, the wage bill has come down dramatically, but that has largely been down to contracts running down or being paid off. And anyway, the other contracts paid since are surely mostly down to Hoos , the finance managing director or whatever title he holds.

                              Of course the managers and players have to take responsibility too, but who hired them? The DoF.

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