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  • LoftusRoadLad
    W12 Seat
    • Jan 2011
    • 19582

    #1

    Smyth & Masterton

    To be loaned out ?

    Would rather keep them here.

    https://www.westlondonsport.com/qpr/...n-could-go-too
  • 3London
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 3758

    #2
    I think Masterson should stay - we are desperately short at CB - so unless they have a recall clause its crazy to let him go - i would actually prefer to see Dickie and Masterson together rather than the clown barbet. maybe they have a CB lined up.

    Smyth - i think is to far down the pecking order to ever get an meaningful game time here

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    • qpr4life
      Gold Seat
      • Apr 2009
      • 5044

      #3
      Can someone, anyone PLEASE explain to me why Smyth is 'the savior'.

      Dont doubt he's quick and probably a good lad, but I dont think he's quite there or perhaps good enough for our current squad to be starting. With new lads in, he drops further down.

      Many people keep having a pop saying he should start etc across social. But what evidence apart from the Cardiff goal is there?

      Materson however is good enough to be on the bench, but given he's young he'd perhaps benefit from a year long loan which we can re-call him?

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      • shaggy24
        Gold Seat
        • Apr 2016
        • 5798

        #4
        I don't see Smyth getting much game time and we maybe better off trying to get a fee for him if he's out of contract at the end of the season?

        Masterson bit of a difficult one tbh as Warbs also has Cameron or Ball that can play Cb personally id rather Ball played there as he's a bit quicker but id prefer to get Flint on loan and let Masterson get a season in a tough in League one and he may come back better.

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        • stanistheman
          Platinum Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 11151

          #5
          Originally posted by shaggy24
          I don't see Smyth getting much game time and we maybe better off trying to get a fee for him if he's out of contract at the end of the season?

          Masterson bit of a difficult one tbh as Warbs also has Cameron or Ball that can play Cb personally id rather Ball played there as he's a bit quicker but id prefer to get Flint on loan and let Masterson get a season in a tough in League one and he may come back better.
          I agree about Smyth. He is clearly not in MWs plans so we should try sell him now .
          I would rather see Masterson stay as he is a better option than either Cameron or Ball as a CB cover. If signing another CB like Flint, Saliba or the one from Spurs, then yes, a loan out for Masterson.

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          • shaggy24
            Gold Seat
            • Apr 2016
            • 5798

            #6
            Originally posted by stanistheman

            I agree about Smyth. He is clearly not in MWs plans so we should try sell him now .
            I would rather see Masterson stay as he is a better option than either Cameron or Ball as a CB cover. If signing another CB like Flint, Saliba or the one from Spurs, then yes, a loan out for Masterson.
            Pretty much on same line of thinking, If we did get flint he would add the bit of nastiness I feel we lack at times. Also I think Oteh needs to go on loan at least as he's just taking some kind of wage that personally I fail to see him ever making it.

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            • SheepRanger
              Administrator
              • Apr 2018
              • 8361

              #7
              Originally posted by qpr4life
              Can someone, anyone PLEASE explain to me why Smyth is 'the savior'.
              When Olly played him on the left wing I thought he was brilliant, but totally ineffective when he got tried out as CF. But for those few games on the wing he took on players, got some decent crosses in and looked keen to get involved in the games. He may have stood out in a very poor team, but I thought it was premature to send him out on loan and think he'd have be further ahead in his career had he stayed with us on the left wing.

              He may not be good enough for our current team, but if I was him, I'd be thinking I havent been given enough of an opportunity. But if Charlton want him I'm sure he be keen to move on now.

              May be not the saviour but perhaps hope he could fulfill that early promise by being given a chance.

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              • qpr4life
                Gold Seat
                • Apr 2009
                • 5044

                #8
                Originally posted by SheepRanger

                When Olly played him on the left wing I thought he was brilliant, but totally ineffective when he got tried out as CF. But for those few games on the wing he took on players, got some decent crosses in and looked keen to get involved in the games. He may have stood out in a very poor team, but I thought it was premature to send him out on loan and think he'd have be further ahead in his career had he stayed with us on the left wing.

                He may not be good enough for our current team, but if I was him, I'd be thinking I havent been given enough of an opportunity. But if Charlton want him I'm sure he be keen to move on now.

                May be not the saviour but perhaps hope he could fulfill that early promise by being given a chance.
                That's fair, he did look good in his cameo's

                But for the 18 games he's been involved in, 3-6 starting, I just cannot understand it personally. I think he has something to give, but he's 23 now and Gaz didnt overly rate him either.

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                • SheepRanger
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 8361

                  #9
                  Originally posted by qpr4life

                  That's fair, he did look good in his cameo's

                  But for the 18 games he's been involved in, 3-6 starting, I just cannot understand it personally. I think he has something to give, but he's 23 now and Gaz didnt overly rate him either.
                  Agreed - he's gone backwards (or not progressed) since those loans. Had he stayed at the time he might have been a better player now.........??????

                  But I agree, he's not good enough now thats for sure.

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                  • qpr4life
                    Gold Seat
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5044

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SheepRanger

                    Agreed - he's gone backwards (or not progressed) since those loans. Had he stayed at the time he might have been a better player now.........??????

                    But I agree, he's not good enough now thats for sure.
                    the following season, under Macca, I dont think he'd have got in much.

                    Chair, Freeman, BOS, Pav, Eze, Wells, Hemed, Big Smith, Washington,

                    One or two arguably weren't amazing, but I dont see Smyth starting in this lot, so I again dont see where his 'level is at'

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                    • MYU
                      Administrator
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 43466

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SheepRanger

                      When Olly played him on the left wing I thought he was brilliant, but totally ineffective when he got tried out as CF. But for those few games on the wing he took on players, got some decent crosses in and looked keen to get involved in the games. He may have stood out in a very poor team, but I thought it was premature to send him out on loan and think he'd have be further ahead in his career had he stayed with us on the left wing.

                      He may not be good enough for our current team, but if I was him, I'd be thinking I havent been given enough of an opportunity. But if Charlton want him I'm sure he be keen to move on now.

                      May be not the saviour but perhaps hope he could fulfill that early promise by being given a chance.
                      We need pace when everyone's legs are gone.

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                      • LoftusRoadLad
                        W12 Seat
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 19582

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MYU

                        We need pace when everyone's legs are gone.
                        Thats what I think......long season.....pacey player on the bench itching to get on

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                        • qpr4life
                          Gold Seat
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5044

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MYU

                          We need pace when everyone's legs are gone.
                          sign me up then...

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