Oaklands update

[1973 ranger]

#### all but he needs to keep the I am a decent and genuine bloke bit up and also to keep the fans hoping for a new stadium and training ground.

[Kevin Mcleod]

#### all but he needs to keep the I am a decent and genuine bloke bit up and also to keep the fans hoping for a new stadium and training ground.

Why does he have to do that though?
Most chairmen are hate figures and dont give a shite.
Dont get any of this devolpment stuff.

[1973 ranger]

To keep the fanbase believing he is here for them as no one does over a quarter of a billion for the love of QPR so the real estate would help claw that back. I think he thought that by now a training ground would be finished and a stadium on its way. Neither as yet are anywhere near certain but what is certain is the redevelopmet.

[Kevin Mcleod]

To keep the fanbase believing he is here for them as no one does over a quarter of a billion for the love of QPR so the real estate would help claw that back. I think he thought that by now a training ground would be finished and a stadium on its way. Neither as yet are anywhere near certain but what is certain is the redevelopmet.

And im not being a divv but i did ask, what has the redevelopment got to do with qpr?
Can he not do the development if he is not chaiir of rangers?
Im confused by this.

[1973 ranger]

Nothing really other than our owners generating a nice bit of poppy out of it for themselves.

[Stanley]

And im not being a divv but i did ask, what has the redevelopment got to do with qpr?
Can he not do the development if he is not chaiir of rangers?
Im confused by this.

All depends if it's being carried out by QPR FC Holdings Ltd OR as an Arcelor-Mittal/AirAsia consortium (or whatever they decide to call themselves).

[Bluehoop]

The usual spread of pessimism and brow beating aside, I don't understand how anyone needs to ask the question "how is this good for the Club"?
The article deals with some of the community aspects but also highlights the following fact - Residential development to fund stadium construction has been used successfully by football clubs to create stadiums. Ergo, the funds from sales/rental (however they proceed) will be used towards creating the stadium. What's not to get?

As for Stanley's comment above, I don't think it matters who it is being carried out by. TF wouldn't be dumb enough to publicise this so loudly unless he was going to follow through with it - now don's tin hat whilst all the pessimists and anti TF team throw bombs.

On the previous page someone rightly said that Reading, Brighton and others had successfully gone down this route. That is correct and it is also very true to say that various Clubs (either in that identity or by other venture) purchase land for development of property and trouser millions in profit to finance their other businesses and their football club's. Sports Direct is a prime example - Ashley does it all over the place.

[Undecided]

All depends if it's being carried out by QPR FC Holdings Ltd OR as an Arcelor-Mittal/AirAsia consortium (or whatever they decide to call themselves).

So, as I am understanding it:

1. If it is being developed in the name of the club and by the club solely, then the club is clearly involved. And it would suggest the profits/income/benefits would all accrue to the club. The rub is if TF/Consortium are involved in some way (e.g.managing agents etc.) then how are the benefits split? And is the split equitable (I.e. Is the club being sha fted?)

2. If TF/Consortium are solely developing it (and taking all of any risks), then the benefits would accrue to them, and none would fall to the club. The issue here is "if the club is not involved, why is its name being bandied about? And, if the club are not involved, and a stadium is built, on what terms will the club use the stadium, and again is that equitable?

I would suggest the outcome would be somewhere between the two, but the concern remains "would the split of benefits be equitable?"

Uhm, I think.

[West Acton]

Arsenal made and maker serious dough still from the conversion of Highbury into flats

OOC and hotel connected which I think was part of plans defo made sense as gives regular income. Imagine money they/we could have made from hotel with international railway station on its doorstep as well as other regeneration projects. Printing money

[Kevin Mcleod]

Greg Hands
@GregHands

Great catch up with @tonyfernandes of QPR, Air Asia & more to talk Old Oak development, new QPR stadium & UK-Malaysia trade. https://t.co/tKc8ucz2Pi

Great catch up with @tonyfernandes of QPR, Air Asia & more to talk Old Oak development, new QPR stadium & UK-Malaysia trade. pic.twitter.com/tKc8ucz2Pi

— Greg Hands (@GregHands) October 10, 2017

[hipsterhoop]

Interesting. So, talks with the Chelsea and Fulham MP...Getting the backing for planning permissions maybes? Sounding good. Thanks Kevin McLeod for the update

[Ginger Ninja]

Greg Hands
@GregHands

Great catch up with @tonyfernandes of QPR, Air Asia & more to talk Old Oak development, new QPR stadium & UK-Malaysia trade. https://t.co/tKc8ucz2Pi

Great catch up with @tonyfernandes of QPR, Air Asia & more to talk Old Oak development, new QPR stadium & UK-Malaysia trade. pic.twitter.com/tKc8ucz2Pi

— Greg Hands (@GregHands) October 10, 2017

But it's definitely 100% guaranteed that it's not going to happen..

[West Acton]

Haters gonna hate ginge. TF will never get any credit no matter what he does now from some

[1973 ranger]

Westy. With all due respect he has been spouting about a training ground for the best part of five years so what credit should he be getting? The only thing he has completed is the ultimate mis mananagent of a football club in english football history. If we get a new stadium fantastic but a photo with a bod from the council is not worthy of praise or credit.

[Hitman34]

Haters gonna hate ginge. TF will never get any credit no matter what he does now from some

OK, I will put my hands up. Full credit to uncle for talking to an mp.

Amazing work by our board....... mehhh