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  • Qprtanpa1
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    Healthy and open conversation on this thread so far. Perhaps the better question for Ollie moving forward is simple and obvious: "Why would giving you another season at the helm make a significant difference in the way our team plays, and who plays for it?"

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  • qprjeff1882
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    I think most of us thought Ollie would be ok as he shows passion but no amount of passion can help if you keep showing ineptitude with changes in so many players and formations as well as tactics. We need a manager that plays on the floor with good passing and moving similar to Fulham dare i say it. And keeps a settled side. Ollie can't even see that lumping it forward bypassing the whole midfield isn't working.

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  • FurtiveFox
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    Originally posted by topperharley
    Ollie was, other than a best available appointment, all about getting pride back into the club. Making QPR mean something again. Chest beating. He almost did it. Everyone except maybe Hal and Shania, that i saw, were massively pro Ollie and optimistic before the break. It's a real shame he's managed to lose the last 6 games, we were onto something for a while there.

    Still waiting, on this thread, for one of the anti-Ollie's to come up with a credible replacement and why. I'd support a change, if it was for a good reason.
    Hope momentarily flared in my heart after our mini run! However we have now had two lots of consecutive defeats and I can hardly believe we could do worse than Ollie. I'd rather have Basil Brush in charge at the moment.

    In terms of replacements Karanka did well at Boro and was highly thought of out of names on this thread. I'll confess and say I don't keep an eye on lower leagues but could be an up and comer or two. Maybe a foreign coach we don't know about. Must be options.

    Ollie was brought in to get club back on track and challenging for promotion. It couldn't have been more of a fark up. Almost looks like he is on a mission to take us down. I can see no reason to keep him. Has been a disaster and signs are will only get worse. We need more than a bit of badge thumping.

    From an incoming manager perspective think we are a good prospect, good owners, reasonable squad. We have just made a bad appointment in Ollie which doesn't help our overall credibility.

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  • Shania
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    Originally posted by topperharley
    Ollie was, other than a best available appointment, all about getting pride back into the club. Making QPR mean something again. Chest beating. He almost did it. Everyone except maybe Hal and Shania, that i saw, were massively pro Ollie and optimistic before the break. It's a real shame he's managed to lose the last 6 games, we were onto something for a while there.

    Still waiting, on this thread, for one of the anti-Ollie's to come up with a credible replacement and why. I'd support a change, if it was for a good reason.

    Only two of us? Haha
    Last edited by Shania; 24-04-2017, 05:36 PM.

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  • Gtleighsr3
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    If Ollie nicks up first 10 games have to right season off again. If he going it got to be summer

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  • The General
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    Give Ollie 10 games into new season if not then

    Mc Laren
    Pardew
    Pearson. Who I wanted 3 managers ago

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  • Gtleighsr3
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    Cheeky punt fir ranieri.

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  • topperharley
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    Originally posted by FurtiveFox
    I have been pretty pro Les since he joined. However my confidence was significantly dented by him appointing Ollie, which in my view was daft and more to do with being his mate. That Ollie has been a disaster has just added to that unease. If I were the owner I would be asking some serious questions of Les and would want convincing answers.

    I could understand Ramsey and JFH appointments but not Ollie. That was even at the time extremely questionable.
    Ollie was, other than a best available appointment, all about getting pride back into the club. Making QPR mean something again. Chest beating. He almost did it. Everyone except maybe Hal and Shania, that i saw, were massively pro Ollie and optimistic before the break. It's a real shame he's managed to lose the last 6 games, we were onto something for a while there.

    Still waiting, on this thread, for one of the anti-Ollie's to come up with a credible replacement and why. I'd support a change, if it was for a good reason.

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  • Brian Wilson
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    Karanka would have people pining for Jimmy's open expansive total football

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  • FurtiveFox
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    Originally posted by qprjeff1882
    I think we can name who we like but we won't get anyone decent who will work under Les and not have a massive say on players. And record shows that Les has a flawed appointment process. Whether controversial or not since Les arrived he has spoke about a lack of black managers and has proceeded to appoint two. Also two out of the three appointments have been friends of his. I don't think he is capable of appointing the BEST candidate. I know a lot of people will find issues with that and i apologise if it upsets anyone but until i am proved wrong in time i will stick with it. Feel free to use me as a punch bag. Lol
    I have been pretty pro Les since he joined. However my confidence was significantly dented by him appointing Ollie, which in my view was daft and more to do with being his mate. That Ollie has been a disaster has just added to that unease. If I were the owner I would be asking some serious questions of Les and would want convincing answers.

    I could understand Ramsey and JFH appointments but not Ollie. That was even at the time extremely questionable.

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  • qprjeff1882
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    Also if Les had his way Tim nice but dim would also have been here too. And all this makes me wonder if he really does have QPR's best interests at heart or his own employment and popularity.

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  • QPR Richard
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    Originally posted by qprjeff1882
    I think we can name who we like but we won't get anyone decent who will work under Les and not have a massive say on players. And record shows that Les has a flawed appointment process. Whether controversial or not since Les arrived he has spoke about a lack of black managers and has proceeded to appoint two. Also two out of the three appointments have been friends of his. I don't think he is capable of appointing the BEST candidate. I know a lot of people will find issues with that and i apologise if it upsets anyone but until i am proved wrong in time i will stick with it. Feel free to use me as a punch bag. Lol
    I think you're right Jeff.

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  • qprjeff1882
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    I think we can name who we like but we won't get anyone decent who will work under Les and not have a massive say on players. And record shows that Les has a flawed appointment process. Whether controversial or not since Les arrived he has spoke about a lack of black managers and has proceeded to appoint two. Also two out of the three appointments have been friends of his. I don't think he is capable of appointing the BEST candidate. I know a lot of people will find issues with that and i apologise if it upsets anyone but until i am proved wrong in time i will stick with it. Feel free to use me as a punch bag. Lol

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  • James1979
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    Originally posted by topperharley
    Is and isn't.

    With numerous threads alluding to wanting Ollie out and one actual Ollie Out!....I'd like to hear who people think would actually be any better.

    More importantly, why?

    James said above, "Well he has recently had success unlike Ollie" on Karanka. Well that really means bugger all doesn't it? Plenty of managers are good at one club the fail at the next. There are very few fail-safe managers that will do a job everywhere they go. Allardyce (don't like the guy), he is one, but to say he's been successful? What's he won recently? Ollie and Redknapp have more promotions under their belt than he or the aforementioned Karanka.

    So what does Karanka bring to the team? Or is he just another name?

    I understand Ollie because we needed someone to give us and the players pride in the club again. He did that, but has almost immediately thrown it away. So, what do we need from here?
    Karanka unlike holloway has not got a recent relegation under his belt and then a job in TV. Holloway has not had success since 2013. Since then it's been too many failures and he looks a broken man.

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  • topperharley
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    Originally posted by Gtleighsr3
    Until Ollie gets the boot its pointless speculating. Who's to say they ever going to sack him.
    Is and isn't.

    With numerous threads alluding to wanting Ollie out and one actual Ollie Out!....I'd like to hear who people think would actually be any better.

    More importantly, why?

    James said above, "Well he has recently had success unlike Ollie" on Karanka. Well that really means bugger all doesn't it? Plenty of managers are good at one club the fail at the next. There are very few fail-safe managers that will do a job everywhere they go. Allardyce (don't like the guy), he is one, but to say he's been successful? What's he won recently? Ollie and Redknapp have more promotions under their belt than he or the aforementioned Karanka.

    So what does Karanka bring to the team? Or is he just another name?

    I understand Ollie because we needed someone to give us and the players pride in the club again. He did that, but has almost immediately thrown it away. So, what do we need from here?

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