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Hall is a better midfielder than Derry? FFS. Sylla better than the Iceman?Originally posted by topperharley View PostBrilliant question!
Hard to compare as a different formation, but this is my feeling based on comparing the most similar players we have.
Kenny vs Smithies = Smithies
Walker vs Furlong = Walker
Connelly vs Ned = Karl
Gorkks vs Lynch = Lynch
Hill vs Bidwell = Draw
Derry vs Hall = Hall
Faurlin vs Luongo = Draw (asked a month ago Faurlin walks it, but maybe Mass is coming good?)
Routledge vs Pav = Draw
Tarbs vs No one really in the team to compare Rav doesn't count
Buzsacky vs Manning = Manning
HH vs Sylla = Sylla (But Heidar beats Conor and Wash in a 1 up front)
Right now, both teams at their best, 2010 wins. But only because Tarbs at his best was borderline unplayable.
One 5-1 win and some folk on here go nuts.
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Sylla is a better striker, yes. He's stronger, has a better eye for goal and i think will prove to be one of our better players.Originally posted by Rangers77 View PostHall is a better midfielder than Derry? FFS. Sylla better than the Iceman?
One 5-1 win and some folk on here go nuts.
Hill is playing a similar role to Derry, and doing it very well. Derry was not a good player, he was a grinder that owned his position. Hall is, and has been on this recent run, the key to making it work. So yeah, i think he's at least equal, but has more nouse and so tips it for me.
Not one 5-1 mate, I've thought this team has been very good for a while, just mis-managed.
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Sylla is not a better striker than Heidar was, he's nowhere near. Derry "was not a good player"? WTF are you on?! He was absolutely central to that promotion-winning side, after the maestro that was Adel Taarabt. Anyway, you've achieved your aim Topper, we're arguing!Originally posted by topperharley View PostSylla is a better striker, yes. He's stronger, has a better eye for goal and i think will prove to be one of our better players.
Hill is playing a similar role to Derry, and doing it very well. Derry was not a good player, he was a grinder that owned his position. Hall is, and has been on this recent run, the key to making it work. So yeah, i think he's at least equal, but has more nouse and so tips it for me.
Not one 5-1 mate, I've thought this team has been very good for a while, just mis-managed.
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central to the side, but as an individual, not a good player. One could argue the very nature of him being able to muscle games without natural talent makes him a better player, so i'd go with that. Some players are better in a team, rather than as individuals?Originally posted by Hubble View PostSylla is not a better striker than Heidar was, he's nowhere near. Derry "was not a good player"? WTF are you on?! He was absolutely central to that promotion-winning side, after the maestro that was Adel Taarabt. Anyway, you've achieved your aim Topper, we're arguing!
Have to agree to disagree on Heidar, too early to really tell i suppose, given a run on the form we've shown for the last two months, Sylla has the potential to be a 20 goal a season striker.
Niether are Charlie.
Oh, and arguing? Nah, some people might like to argue, i refer to it as a conversation, usually, type in caps lock if it's an argument, then I'll know your seriously angry.
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there you go! i knew we could find something have a row about
my 2 peneth
Kenny vs Smithies = Smithies
Walker vs Furlong = Walker
Connelly vs Ned = Karl
Gorkks vs Lynch = Gorkks
Hill vs Bidwell = Bidwell
Derry vs Hall = Derry
Faurlin vs Luongo = Faurlin
Routledge vs Pav = Draw
Tarbs vs Anyone = Tarbs
Buzsacky vs Manning = Buzz
HH vs Sylla = HH
this team
Smithies
Walker Gorkks Hall Bidwell
Pav Derry Buzz Routledge
Tarbs HH
subs
Kennt Hill Ned Sylla Washington Manning Freeman
that would win the league
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Derrys style of play was being a tough tackling leader with great awareness which more than made up for his lack of flair and pace, he was a great player for us and as other have said, our most important player after taarabt.
Heidar is my favourite striker we've had here during my time supporting qpr, loved him before he came here and was over the moon when he did. He was far better than sylla imo, at least for now.
I do agree that hall is our future though, sure hes been a bit inconsistent this season but hes still easily one of our best players and will be for years to come.
If i had to do a starting 11 based on then and now itd be:
Smithies
Hill connelly hall walker
Taarabt derry faurlin manning pavel
Heidar
Would normally just go 442 for easiness but dont quite think our strikers are in the same league as heidar yet
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Lol this tickled meOriginally posted by Hubble View PostSylla is not a better striker than Heidar was, he's nowhere near. Derry "was not a good player"? WTF are you on?! He was absolutely central to that promotion-winning side, after the maestro that was Adel Taarabt. Anyway, you've achieved your aim Topper, we're arguing!
watch out as tarbie will have you
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I agree and agree with topper about hall, thought he looked the part from his first game there and will only get better!Originally posted by Awin View PostHall has been instrumental in our 5 wins from 7, in many respects he is playing the old Holloway role but supporting the defence even more.
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I tried to pick what was our our strongest line up we could at the time. The same argument could have been said about Orr (only played 20 odd games) and Ephraim before Routledge came in. Mackie played more of a part then Akos however, I agree!Originally posted by Awin View PostAlso walker only played half a season before being recalled and then loaned to villa. (Played 20 games)
Routledge also came in on loan and only played 20 games.
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