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  • Rangers77
    Platinum Seat
    • Aug 2012
    • 11808

    #121
    Originally posted by CroydonCaptainJack
    He was poor on Saturday agreed. That doesn't make him a poor player generally though.
    Have thought him poor since he arrived, Jack. Wish it wasn't so, though. Happy if he could come good. Seems like a nice lad.

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    • nanocopic
      Silver Seat
      • Oct 2015
      • 1725

      #122
      He has had games where he was fantastic and really important. Other games less so. He is 24 and that happens. He isn't in his prime yet and still.has a while to learn. He needs consistency which only comes with age and also a bit more cutting edge in the final third. But his tackling and breaking up of play in some games is superb and really important.

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      • Ginger Ninja
        W12 Seat
        • Jan 2010
        • 17458

        #123
        You know what we've missed in our midfield? A Derry-type player. A nasty, horrible, pull-no-punches ####### of a midfielder. We haven't got anyone like that.
        Top Scorers 2018/2019

        Nakhi Wells - 8
        Pawel Wszolek - 6
        Luke Freeman - 6
        Matt Smith - 6
        Ebere Eze - 4
        Joel Lynch - 3
        Tomer Hemed - 3
        Toni Leistner - 2
        Massimo Luongo- 2
        Angel Rangel - 2
        Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
        Geoff Cameron - 1
        Aramide Oteh - 1
        Jake Bidwell - 1
        Jordan Cousins - 1

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        • Rangers77
          Platinum Seat
          • Aug 2012
          • 11808

          #124
          Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
          You know what we've missed in our midfield? A Derry-type player. A nasty, horrible, pull-no-punches ####### of a midfielder. We haven't got anyone like that.
          Big time.

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          • brightonr
            Banned
            • Mar 2009
            • 10922

            #125
            Saw a comment elsewhere saying don't give him a balloon or we'll never see him again.

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            • Shepherds Mush
              Platinum Seat
              • Nov 2012
              • 10325

              #126
              If Holloway insists on playing Luongo and Manning together in the middle, then Hall has to play behind them IMO.

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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #127
                Originally posted by Shepherds Mush
                If Holloway insists on playing Luongo and Manning together in the middle, then Hall has to play behind them IMO.
                The combination really didn't work in the first half on Saturday. They got completely overrun! Manning is still inexperienced and learning, whilst Mass isn't vocal or commanding enough! He was to blame more than anyone for their second goal.

                But really you have to say the formation was a mistake to begin with because Pavel is not a wing-back, so the 3-5-2 was the reason they were able to slice right through us with one pass straight from their defence!

                Why is Holloway experimenting with untested formations at this stage of the season is what I'd like to know!

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                • Shepherds Mush
                  Platinum Seat
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 10325

                  #128
                  Originally posted by Stanley
                  The combination really didn't work in the first half on Saturday. They got completely overrun! Manning is still inexperienced and learning, whilst Mass isn't vocal or commanding enough! He was to blame more than anyone for their second goal.

                  But really you have to say the formation was a mistake to begin with because Pavel is not a wing-back, so the 3-5-2 was the reason they were able to slice right through us with one pass straight from their defence!

                  Why is Holloway experimenting with untested formations at this stage of the season is what I'd like to know!
                  There were plenty of players around to deal with both goals but, as usual, we seem to panic and switch off when a well organised team runs at us with pace.

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                  • Ginger Ninja
                    W12 Seat
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 17458

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Stanley
                    The combination really didn't work in the first half on Saturday. They got completely overrun! Manning is still inexperienced and learning, whilst Mass isn't vocal or commanding enough! He was to blame more than anyone for their second goal.

                    But really you have to say the formation was a mistake to begin with because Pavel is not a wing-back, so the 3-5-2 was the reason they were able to slice right through us with one pass straight from their defence!

                    Why is Holloway experimenting with untested formations at this stage of the season is what I'd like to know!
                    Precisely why we need a Derry-type player alongside one of them. I've a feeling Goss won't fit that mould, though that's me just looking at the kid.
                    Top Scorers 2018/2019

                    Nakhi Wells - 8
                    Pawel Wszolek - 6
                    Luke Freeman - 6
                    Matt Smith - 6
                    Ebere Eze - 4
                    Joel Lynch - 3
                    Tomer Hemed - 3
                    Toni Leistner - 2
                    Massimo Luongo- 2
                    Angel Rangel - 2
                    Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                    Geoff Cameron - 1
                    Aramide Oteh - 1
                    Jake Bidwell - 1
                    Jordan Cousins - 1

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                    • Stanley
                      Guest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 23693

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
                      Precisely why we need a Derry-type player alongside one of them. I've a feeling Goss won't fit that mould, though that's me just looking at the kid.
                      Closest player we have to that is Karl Henry, who TBH I've always thought does a decent job as the enforcer! If it's to be Goss, then why has he been given the No.10 shirt? Although he is a CM by trade, so maybe so?...

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                      • corbray
                        Silver Seat
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 3030

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Stanley
                        Closest player we have to that is Karl Henry, who TBH I've always thought does a decent job as the enforcer! If it's to be Goss, then why has he been given the No.10 shirt?
                        Why has freeman been given the number 2 shirt?

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                        • Stanley
                          Guest
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23693

                          #132
                          Originally posted by corbray
                          Why has freeman been given the number 2 shirt?
                          Just edited my post before you replied. Said Goss is a CM by trade, so don't know why he got the No.10 shirt.

                          As for Freeman, no idea either! Maybe that's the lucky number he's always had. Players can be superstitious.

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                          • hal9thou
                            Silver Seat
                            • May 2012
                            • 4258

                            #133
                            Originally posted by Stanley
                            But really you have to say the formation was a mistake to begin with
                            This is why those of us who had issues with Olly's appointment considered it such a massive gamble. Great bloke, Rs through and through, get em playing for the shirt etc but without a credible game plan we're gonna struggle. Olly's game plans are flawed imo. I can see what he's trying to do, but in practice he's making bad calls to achieve them.

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                            • corbray
                              Silver Seat
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 3030

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Stanley
                              Just edited my post before you replied. Said Goss is a CM by trade, so don't know why he got the No.10 shirt.

                              As for Freeman, no idea either! Maybe that's the lucky number he's always had. Players can be superstitious.
                              Yeah its just confusing nowdays, everyone just quite literally picks whatever number they feel like regardless of position! I still have no idea what ben gladwin plays as nearly 2 years on

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                              • Shepherds Mush
                                Platinum Seat
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 10325

                                #135
                                Originally posted by hal9thou
                                This is why those of us who had issues with Olly's appointment considered it such a massive gamble. Great bloke, Rs through and through, get em playing for the shirt etc but without a credible game plan we're gonna struggle. Olly's game plans are flawed imo. I can see what he's trying to do, but in practice he's making bad calls to achieve them.
                                Had a very good game plan against Newcastle and Reading plus I thought Huddersfield 2nd half, IMO, was up there with the best we've been all season (albeit too late because we were outclassed 1st half).

                                Burton was the only glaring tactical error for me....just can't see why he changed a side with momentum.

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