Holloway

[Rebel R's]

At least Holloway is interesting to listen to,unlike JFH

[dogsrrs]

Not the managers fault at all last night imo, unless we are going to blame him for picking who is available.

Has been hugely let down by the players over the last two games.

Need a bit of bite and grit in midfield, not a couple of wimps.

Ollie is the 3rd manager struggling to get this GROUP of players to play with any convincing plan how long is it going to take for posters to realise the fault lies elsewhere Ive been guilty of being harsh on Ramsey maybe ! can all three at fault not imo as I've said before it's the fault of the clubs insane dash for cheap potential , Ollie will get it right but believe me it won't happen in the short term

[brightonr]

Not the managers fault at all last night imo, unless we are going to blame him for picking who is available.

Has been hugely let down by the players over the last two games.

Need a bit of bite and grit in midfield, not a couple of wimps.

[chippy]

I wasn't meaning it was that bad, I think a lot of the players have the neccesary to perform and improve but I think the squad is lacking in a few key areas i.e. leadership/ wing backs and creativty from midfield. With the current squad I just don't see these areas improving.

[Pinkie]

You can already see what ollies trying to do, whereas jfh you couldnt see a difference in all his time here and getting worse!

[Pinkie]

[QUOTE=mrbourne21;1587124]Improvements oh come on mate deep down do you really believe that ? . Yesterday was an absolute shambles from min 1 too min 99 , Hall as a centre midfielder behave mass as a left winger ffs so basically took our best midfielder and stuck him left wing took our better centre half out of position . Plays cherry on the right the bloke a either left winger or no 10 role so yesterday we started with 8 men , yes you can say try something new but when have you ever thought I bet hall would be a great midfielder or mass would make a excellent winger , he then played Sandro would I think he wanted to be box to box but Is so unfit he ended up holding and Hall became box to box , playing mass and cherry wide went they came in naturally central so our formation was 4222 , ok yes we rallied when we scored but they was of panic of wolves and let's be honest smithies kept us in it . I think some are buying in Holloway bull crap talks a great game and brilliant at pointing at his heart and waving his hands but maybe if he picked the right team to begin with then he wouldn't have too scream and shout


We was the much better team until they scored and with ten men! what more do you want, ollie sacked! hes already got us playing some nice stuff in midfield and players supporting each other more and attacking, three games in, maybe we should be winning every game now with barcelona like performances and be right in the playoffs! honestly what more apart from the two defeats do you need in three games! maybe we should bring back the great tactician jfh!

[CroydonCaptainJack]

The best managers in the world would struggle to get decent performances from this squad, it is very imbalanced and certainly lacks any type of leader on the park

I don't agree it is that bad. It should certainly be able to compete at this level.

[chippy]

The best managers in the world would struggle to get decent performances from this squad, it is very imbalanced and certainly lacks any type of leader on the park

[SpongeParr]

Dier at Tottenham was a centre back, got moved to midfield and never looked back. Could the same work with Hall? Time will tell. If he starts playing Onouha in midfield ill be worried.

[mrbourne21]

Mass was playing left wing and chery was right wing in a 442 so my fact are right with Sandro and hall central midfielder, so what formation did you think we played then

[Ginger Ninja]

Improvements oh come on mate deep down do you really believe that ? . Yesterday was an absolute shambles from min 1 too min 99 , Hall as a centre midfielder behave mass as a left winger ffs so basically took our best midfielder and stuck him left wing took our better centre half out of position . Plays cherry on the right the bloke a either left winger or no 10 role so yesterday we started with 8 men , yes you can say try something new but when have you ever thought I bet hall would be a great midfielder or mass would make a excellent winger , he then played Sandro would I think he wanted to be box to box but Is so unfit he ended up holding and Hall became box to box , playing mass and cherry wide went they came in naturally central so our formation was 4222 , ok yes we rallied when we scored but they was of panic of wolves and let's be honest smithies kept us in it . I think some are buying in Holloway bull crap talks a great game and brilliant at pointing at his heart and waving his hands but maybe if he picked the right team to begin with then he wouldn't have too scream and shout

Rant over

What are you going on about? Not once did I see Chery or Mass on either wing. Perch and Robinson were. And Yeni when he came on. At least get your facts straight before ranting mate.

[Stanley]

Then why play him there yesterday mate?

I've no idea but an educated guess would tell me that he wasn't strictly a CM but a DM because we all know that Hall is comfortable with the ball at his feet and carrying it out from defence.

The other reason is that (until the sending off when we were forced into change) we started out in a 4-2-2-2 formation with Hall in the first row of two, which is a system we haven't played before and which maybe IH felt suited Hall in that role, bearing in mind the other players at his disposal. We do know that for whatever reason Ariel is currently out of favour and not even on the bench.

If Hall was less comfortable as a ball playing DM I would agree more with your complaint but he's not. Remember too that he played that position too vs Norwich and did well there too, again until the enforced change; and like I say, he's played that role at his previous clubs so it's not as if it's an unfamiliar position for him.

[mrbourne21]

Improvements oh come on mate deep down do you really believe that ? . Yesterday was an absolute shambles from min 1 too min 99 , Hall as a centre midfielder behave mass as a left winger ffs so basically took our best midfielder and stuck him left wing took our better centre half out of position . Plays cherry on the right the bloke a either left winger or no 10 role so yesterday we started with 8 men , yes you can say try something new but when have you ever thought I bet hall would be a great midfielder or mass would make a excellent winger , he then played Sandro would I think he wanted to be box to box but Is so unfit he ended up holding and Hall became box to box , playing mass and cherry wide went they came in naturally central so our formation was 4222 , ok yes we rallied when we scored but they was of panic of wolves and let's be honest smithies kept us in it . I think some are buying in Holloway bull crap talks a great game and brilliant at pointing at his heart and waving his hands but maybe if he picked the right team to begin with then he wouldn't have too scream and shout

Rant over

[CroydonCaptainJack]

Tbh even though we lost last night at least our performances have been better than under jfh. At least we tried to string together passes and remain calm rather than hoofing the ball and panicking whenever we get it.

Teething problems atm and it'll come good in the end, we all know how the team can be improved and i'm sure ollie does as well. Ref didn't help at all last night by blowing his whistle like mad at every opportunity like an idiot

Yes, he was just another s### ref definitely.

[corbray]

Tbh even though we lost last night at least our performances have been better than under jfh. At least we tried to string together passes and remain calm rather than hoofing the ball and panicking whenever we get it.

Teething problems atm and it'll come good in the end, we all know how the team can be improved and i'm sure ollie does as well. Ref didn't help at all last night by blowing his whistle like mad at every opportunity like an idiot