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  • James1979
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 4857

    #1

    What would it take

    for you to change your view on JFH? Whilst I am not a fan of JFH, I wouldn't want to change him unless it was the overwhelming fans view to get rid of him. In that way we'd be starting under a new manager without people moaning that we go rid of him. So, if you're pro JFH, what would it take for you to change? It works both ways, of course. I was thinking about what would need to happen for me to get behind JFH. I've got to admit, I didn't like him from the start because I saw him as totally inexperienced to manage a club like mine. That combined with the style of football....But brentford under flood lights, few beers, feeling like a new man. Results to me have been ok overall, I think our squad is good and could do better but results not bad. So, I think if we can see a bit more attacking play, I'll be not converted yet but at least a non-moaner.....of course, i'd want to remain mid-tableish.
  • jmelanie
    Gold Seat
    • Aug 2011
    • 7525

    #2
    Originally posted by James1979
    for you to change your view on JFH? Whilst I am not a fan of JFH, I wouldn't want to change him unless it was the overwhelming fans view to get rid of him. In that way we'd be starting under a new manager without people moaning that we go rid of him. So, if you're pro JFH, what would it take for you to change? It works both ways, of course. I was thinking about what would need to happen for me to get behind JFH. I've got to admit, I didn't like him from the start because I saw him as totally inexperienced to manage a club like mine. That combined with the style of football....But brentford under flood lights, few beers, feeling like a new man. Results to me have been ok overall, I think our squad is good and could do better but results not bad. So, I think if we can see a bit more attacking play, I'll be not converted yet but at least a non-moaner.....of course, i'd want to remain mid-tableish.
    He falls on his sword and resigns.

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    • James1979
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 4857

      #3
      Originally posted by jmelanie
      He falls on his sword and resigns.
      not for turning on this one then. I presume that must mean it's the telegraph stuff that has done it for you?

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      • jmelanie
        Gold Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 7525

        #4
        Originally posted by James1979
        not for turning on this one then. I presume that must mean it's the telegraph stuff that has done it for you?
        Yes.

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        • Shania
          C Club
          • Apr 2010
          • 23702

          #5
          If he is found gulity in the case against him I will want him gone.
          QPR
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          • nanocopic
            Silver Seat
            • Oct 2015
            • 1725

            #6
            For me I am currently pro JFH and to change I would say a period of bad results that leads us to a genuine threat of relegation.

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            • Timmy the Doc
              Silver Seat
              • Jan 2012
              • 3193

              #7
              Not much. Three wins in a row and top six position before the end of this year and a clear declaration that his goal is to get us to the Premier League this or next season latest.

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              • Gtleighsr3
                CCG
                • Mar 2009
                • 23569

                #8
                we cant sack him,Dwight Yorke would have a massive we are racist meltdown
                Chelmsford City the home of Radio

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                • James1979
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4857

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Gtleighsr3
                  we cant sack him,Dwight Yorke would have a massive we are racist meltdown
                  he'd have called old sir bobby racist for the paul parker "incey" story.

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                  • surrey_hoop
                    Silver Seat
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 1834

                    #10
                    Playing two up front / just the one holding midfielder and going for the win Friday night would be a good start.

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                    • Gtleighsr3
                      CCG
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 23569

                      #11
                      in al honesty i dont think any manager could really sort us out to be what we all imagine. It just seems we try to do things right but just never click it. I truely think we are cursed. its just one #### up or drama after another season in season out for decades.
                      Chelmsford City the home of Radio

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                      • Kevin Mcleod
                        Referee
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 17322

                        #12
                        Wanted him gone ASAP the day the story broke and now will never really like him as a bloke cos of it.
                        The club has chosen to trust him and believe him and i dont but i think hes doing a good job and slowly (yeah yeah i know very slowly, dross dross dross) but surely building a squad from the ground up without spending silly money and bringing in any loans or mercernaries.
                        Stil think top six is achievable this season with a lot of Fulham type luck, but if it doesnt happen then next year im certain it will.

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                        • surrey_hoop
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1834

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gtleighsr3
                          in al honesty i dont think any manager could really sort us out to be what we all imagine. It just seems we try to do things right but just never click it. I truely think we are cursed. its just one #### up or drama after another season in season out for decades.
                          Agree up to a point. Whilst I don't think (Newcastle and Norwich aside) that the quality in this division is not up to much, the squad we have at the moment is a mid-table one, and anybody expecting a Top Six finish (Nass, you there?) is simply being unrealistic at this point - it would've taken anybody we'd appointed a while to recitfy the mess we're in. With that said, I do think that we want to see the team we've got have a go and be allowed to express themselves a little more....too many times under JFH's management, we've played it safe and settled for draws when a win would've been entirely possible had we taken a chance. Would that also result in us losing games that we could take a point from? Of course. The fact is though that draws don't really help you in this division, and they never have. Like I say, aside from the top few sides the rest are generally much of a muchness, and you need to be consistently winning your home games if you want build something. That's personally where I'd like to see him improve.
                          Last edited by surrey_hoop; 26-10-2016, 10:48 PM.

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                          • surrey_hoop
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 1834

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                            Wanted him gone ASAP the day the story broke and now will never really like him as a bloke cos of it.
                            The club has chosen to trust him and believe him and i dont but i think hes doing a good job and slowly (yeah yeah i know very slowly, dross dross dross) but surely building a squad from the ground up without spending silly money and bringing in any loans or mercernaries.
                            Stil think top six is achievable this season with a lot of Fulham type luck, but if it doesnt happen then next year im certain it will.
                            I think that's going to be a big problem for him from now on. Regardless of how involved he was / what his motivations were, many fans will not be able to trust or warm to him after it came out...he's going to have a hard time changing their minds too.
                            Last edited by surrey_hoop; 26-10-2016, 08:53 PM.

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                            • Kevin Mcleod
                              Referee
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 17322

                              #15
                              Originally posted by surrey_hoop
                              I think that's going to be a big problem for him from now on. Regardless of how involved he was / what his motivations were, many fans will not be able to trust or warm him after it came out...he's going to have a hard time changing their minds too.
                              And it was hard enough warming to him before 'pret a gate' cos of his Chelsea connections.

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