Lost Interest

[surrey_hoop]

But we aren't nicking the occasional away match, we've won half of our away matches so far, only Newcastle have won more. If we go through a phase where we can't keep that up, we'll most likely do better at home.

Actually Fulham have too, and they've got little chance of making the play-offs either....another side who are inconsistent to say the least at home, and who won't challenge until that changes. I'd go out on a limb now and say that the Top 6 will be Newcastle, Norwich, Brighton, Birmingham, Huddersfield and Sheffield Wed.

" If we go through a phase where we can't keep that up, we'll most likely do better at home."

Again, there's absolutely nothing to suggest our home form will improve anytime soon. The away performances are the only thing keeping this season somewhat respectable at present, and that was only due to a couple of favourable penalty decisions early on.

[nasser95]

Actually Fulham have too, and they've got virtually zero chance of making the play-offs either.

" If we go through a phase where we can't keep that up, we'll most likely do better at home."

Again, there's absolutely nothing to suggest our home form will improve anytime soon. The away performances are the only thing keep this season somewhat respectable at present, and that was only due to a couple of favourable penalty decisions early on.

"favourable penalty decisions early on" - you make it seem like they weren't necessarily the right calls. We earned those penalties by getting into the opposition box, that's a pretty basic concept to understand. It's not got anything to do with getting favourable decisions because we got shafted by a poor decision against Barnsley that led to their free kick goal if I recall correctly, we had penalty shouts turned down but that's part and parcel of the game.

"there's absolutely nothing to suggest our home form will improve anytime soon"

I take you back to our first season in the prem. 10th of January, Mark Hughes takes over. His record started off as 1 win in 8 matches, that 1 win being at home against Wigan, with 2 defeats and a draw at home too. Away, we were at 1 draw and 3 defeats. And then something incredible happened. We won 5 home matches in a row. There was no suggestion that we would or that we should. The first match of that remarkable run, we went 2 down against a very strong Liverpool side. But something switched, without any reason.

But if that's not reason enough to suggest that with QPR, nothing is to be predicted, here are some more smaller cases.

Last season we lost away at MK Dons 2 - 0, a team that got relegated, and the next two results were home victories against Derby (5th) and Brentford (9th). Most likely, after that match, people were expecting demolitions from those two, but it was not to be. You see, I use stats to make suggestions on how players are going to play, whether I can find patterns, whether I can make predictions. But more than all that, I use stats to tell me what happened in the last game, and the reason for that is because with QPR, predicting doesn't get you very far. No one would predict us Beating Liverpool, Arsenal, Swansea and Spurs at home, only to then get demolished 6-1 by Chelsea, before somehow staying up, not least after losing our best performing player half way through the season (Faurlin). No one would have predicted us to win the play off final after Gary O'Neil got sent off, no one would have predicted us to get that promotion with Warnock after watching us the season before.

So when it comes to QPR, I try my best to gauge what I can see, but really it's futile. You can see performances like the Preston one a mere few weeks after an incredible performance against Leeds, and you can see derby wins away at Fulham after years of poor performances and no suggestion that we would go to Fulham and get anything better than a bol locking.

So my reason for believing that our home form is likely to improve is fairly simple. We're getting our better players back now, we're getting under pressure from fans and we need a spark. A moment to just change our fortunes. And when things get to that stage, one of two things happens. 1) We collapse after getting so close (See Aston Villa and Wigan in recent history) or 2) We have that one incredible moment (See FaurlinGate, Liverpool and Derby).

Now, I'm not much of a betting man, nor should I be. But I'm more than content to hope that we get that one incredible moment that changes things.

[1973 ranger]

Nas, You cannot compare Hughes in the Prem with this shower we have now. That team had talent and players who could win us games in a second this lot of rubble will not do the same as they are set up not to get beat rather than actually trying to win games.

[nasser95]

Nas, You cannot compare Hughes in the Prem with this shower we have now. That team had talent and players who could win us games in a second this lot of rubble will not do the same as they are set up not to get beat rather than actually trying to win games.

Did it now... We had Cisse as a game-changer and he kept getting sent off, Taarabt for like 2 matches was solid but apart from that, the side was pretty poor relative to that league.

[1973 ranger]

Who mentioned Cisse as a game changer? If I recall he was suspended for nearly as many games as he played. Character and leaders which helped us when in the ####. Cisse did score a goal or two that was very important including Stoke last home game of the season in the last few minutes

[nasser95]

Who mentioned Cisse as a game changer? If I recall he was suspended for nearly as many games as he played. Character and leaders which helped us when in the ####. Cisse did score a goal or two that was very important including Stoke last home game of the season in the last few minutes

I mean, in reality the Characters in that team were Clint and Derry, and while it's difficult to replace them, I don't think there's as much of a disparity between talent anymore. The team seems more like a team now and come across very codependent which is both a good and bad thing.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

I also believe that like myself many on here have followed the club through over 30 - 40 years and are desperate for some success
Your patience Nasser is probably on a lot longer threshold than many of the guys on here that have put up. With this shite
Through thick and thin since they were 10 yrs old.

Well I'm one of those and that's why my expectations are low!

[Brian Wilson]

I also believe that like myself many on here have followed the club through over 30 - 40 years and are desperate for some success
Your patience Nasser is probably on a lot longer threshold than many of the guys on here that have put up. With this shite
Through thick and thin since they were 10 yrs old.

We were always rubbish and still are which makes the rare successes all the more sweeter

[nanocopic]

I became a fan the year we got relegated in 96 and have been one ever since. Now tbh other than the blip of premiership football for 3 years we have always been average and often poor. We have had so many bad players it is impossible to list them all but interspersed with that are cult heroes. Now I think our cult heroes are Smithies, Luongo and Polter. The first two really good, Polter trys and behaves fantastically towards the fans. But really unsure where our expectations have come from for success. A heck of a lot of clubs have a bigger history and more trophies than us but that isnt why I support us.

[vespa]

We were always rubbish and still are which makes the rare successes all the more sweeter

i agree our rare successes are made sweeter because they are rare and weve seen some p iss poor players (as well as some amazing greats ),but ive never experienced such f ucking boring drivel in my 45 years as we have in the last few years.

[Alanwycombe]

We were always rubbish and still are which makes the rare successes all the more sweeter

My first game was '63...... We weren't rubbish under Stock, Jago, Sexton, Venables, Francis.....in fact, I've seen more decent stuff than rubbish, and just about more ups than downs. Just.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

We were always rubbish and still are which makes the rare successes all the more sweeter

Rubbish maybe, but never remember us this mind numbingly boring.

[dave58]

Don't think TF is the only one who may have lost interest, looks like a lot of fans are too!

[surrey_hoop]

They were favourable penalty decisions because they covered up the clear deficiencies in the squad. I thought I was making a pretty basic point with that comment as well.

You can continue to use history to support your weak argument if you wish, but you really are posting cobblers at this point. I'm not talking about 3 years ago, I'm not talking about 2 years ago....as of right this minute, what has this team shown you that has made you so confident they we are going to go from a mid table side (which we have been for virtually the entire time Hasselbaink has been in charge) to a top six team? Saying that 'we're getting into the opposition box more often' (not difficult, given that we barely make a chance in most games) and 'we're getting our better players back' (who still aren't good enough) doesn't really cut it, as we are clearly still very poor in virtually every other phase of the game compared to the top half a dozen sides in this league. We are a mid table club, with mid table players playing mid table (at best) football. That's all that you can base any prediction on. You've also basically made my argument for me by stating how inconsistent we now are....inconsistent teams don't make the play-offs, and they never have. At some point, you have to put together a sustained run (i.e. 15-20 games) of winning maybe 10 or 11 games if you want to finish in those spots, and we simply look incapable of doing that. As poor as we were to watch under Redknapp in the Championship, we made it to Wembley on the back of our home form, which was amongst the best in the division that year (only Leicester were better at home). Until we manage to repeat that, we are NOT going back there.

[march56]

Lol sickening! what are you on about, just going on some of youre know it all points you keep making, im as peeved as everyone else about how we have been playing for the time jfh has been here, you basically have got youre head burried in the sand! for all this knowlege & know how youve got, i would of thought its quite obvious we`re going nowhere on the pitch under the current manager!

spot on!