Old Oak Common latest

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

QUOTE Kirill "Oh, be quiet. If Isleworth says you don't go to matches, then that is the truth. Whom would I rather believe, a respected member like him or a nobody like you?"

Not that Beefy needs anyone to fight his corner, but you clearly owe him an apology. No breath holding anywhere mind you

Still waiting it seems...

[martyhoop]

Oh and I'd so much rather we had nothing to do with him or that area now. Would rather stay in the 1960's and forgo a new stadium than pander to his greed and ego.

No different to what TF & CO are in it for £££££££

[martyhoop]

From what I understand its not the stadium thats the problem.

Its all the added extras that Fernandes wants around the stadium which will make him mega bucks thats the issue.

Nail on head. it's the only reason TF&CO brought us in the first place

[Kevin Mcleod]

No different to what TF & CO are in it for £££££££

No you are right, TF & co are the epitome of the word greed. Done nothing but take take take from all of us and all they want is to make money out of our huge world renowned club. Greedy money grabbing dirty bar stewards.

[martyhoop]

No ypu are right, TF & co are the epitome of the word greed. Done nothing but take take take from all of us and our club. Greedy money grabbing dirty bar steward.

With the money they stand/could make is peanuts compared to what they have Lost due to their naïveness. We are just a pawn in trying to secure the land at Old Oak imho

[Kevin Mcleod]

In your opinion, but so many are saying they have got no chance of ever getting the land and we will never ever get a new ground.
Massive 250 million toss of a coin that don't you think martyhoop?

[martyhoop]

They probably thought they could use bully boy tactics to get what they wanted.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Alright mate, alright.

[Bill]

Alright mate, alright.

Glad to see your still going along nicely.

This old oak gig is all about CPO,spin,political posturing media posturing and
most of all money and greasing influential peoples hands.
How long this will take who knows and who really cares its just a big game.
If i could have my wish i would prefer a new stadium at Loftus Road but then
pigs might fly.

And before anyone pipes up i still go and only decided to post as nobody really knows
which way this new ground idea will go a training would be good first.

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

No different to what TF & CO are in it for £££££££

Don't talk sense mate. Won't go down well on here.

[Kevin Mcleod]

Don't talk sense mate. Won't go down well on here.

Bit patronising that.
Course they want to make money, they have given enough away,
Who on this forum or thread is under the impression they want to develop the ground and land as a non profit philanthropic venture like the last five years for them at QPR have been?

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Bit patronising that.
Course they want to make money, they have given enough away,
Who on this forum or thread is under the impression they want to develop the ground and land as a non profit philanthropic venture like the last five years for them at QPR have been?

No but it's pretty clear many on here think CG should be more charitable as they're QPR fans. Ridiculous.

If OOC wasn't ever an option TF & co wouldn't of come within 100 miles of us. If people think Mendes is bluffing, why don't the club call his bluff? He's in a more powerful position on this than many want to admit.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Don't understand the anti CG rhetoric.
CG obviously got a successful business and simply wants to protect it. Probably wants his statement out to QPR fans to lay a marker down if things turn nasty from either side that CG isn't anti QPR but simply preseving their position.
If TF say raised ST prices by 50% because he said it was in the best interest of the club , fans would be in uproar. It would be perverse to argue those same fans were disloyal to QPR or somehow were fettering the clubs expansion. CG are actually more entitled to complain as QPR are moving onto their patch.
Also last 4 years by TF own admission his reign has been scattered with mistakes including financial waste on a massive scale. If you were sitting as a businessman in OOC and the current QPR board were wandering around after amassing £200m debt and writing off £60m, offering Luke Young £35k p/w ..you're hardly going to fill you with confidence that the same lot are going to make a blistering success of OOC.
All this moving to a new stadium started as a fanfare when TF first arrived, 4 years on the club on and off the pitch are in a worse position. When equivalent clubs like Leicster. Swansea, Norwich have gone from strength to strength we've reversed. TF was so bullish on his arrival Warnock was replaced by MH, championship winning team was disbanded for mercaneries, a 40k stadium was coming didn't matter that we didn't appear to make any attempt to consult those who owned the land and were historic QPR partners...it was so aggressive and bullish tactic but didn't matter as we were flying high and going to grow. It all came crashing down and not through vision but necessity TF had to change with JFH and Sir Les coming in to stabilise and build the club up again the QPR way by cheaper signings with less reliance on mercaneries. If on the pitch and in the boardroom our club accept mistakes were made about how QPR were run, it's not unreasonable for the owner of CG to be entitled to highlight in his view his perceived errors of QPR when dealing with OOC.
I really cannot see the problem with CGs stance.

[West Acton]

No but it's pretty clear many on here think CG should be more charitable as they're QPR fans. Ridiculous.

If OOC wasn't ever an option TF & co wouldn't of come within 100 miles of us. If people think Mendes is bluffing, why don't the club call his bluff? He's in a more powerful position on this than many want to admit.

Your totally right Jimmy they own the land so they name the price as saying goes no friends in business

However would disagree they are in powerful position if they were they would not be using tactics they are nor obsessed with us. Most things they have come out with have been and have looked very unprofessional and done on the cheap.

It's silly there is plenty of cake for everyone to eat and get fat on so these public rows (both sides) are bit school ground. Get your heads together and come up with a win win

[Stanley]

Don't understand the anti CG rhetoric.
CG obviously got a successful business and simply wants to protect it. Probably wants his statement out to QPR fans to lay a marker down if things turn nasty from either side that CG isn't anti QPR but simply preseving their position.
If TF say raised ST prices by 50% because he said it was in the best interest of the club , fans would be in uproar. It would be perverse to argue those same fans were disloyal to QPR or somehow were fettering the clubs expansion. CG are actually more entitled to complain as QPR are moving onto their patch.
Also last 4 years by TF own admission his reign has been scattered with mistakes including financial waste on a massive scale. If you were sitting as a businessman in OOC and the current QPR board were wandering around after amassing £200m debt and writing off £60m, offering Luke Young £35k p/w ..you're hardly going to fill you with confidence that the same lot are going to make a blistering success of OOC.
All this moving to a new stadium started as a fanfare when TF first arrived, 4 years on the club on and off the pitch are in a worse position. When equivalent clubs like Leicster. Swansea, Norwich have gone from strength to strength we've reversed. TF was so bullish on his arrival Warnock was replaced by MH, championship winning team was disbanded for mercaneries, a 40k stadium was coming didn't matter that we didn't appear to make any attempt to consult those who owned the land and were historic QPR partners...it was so aggressive and bullish tactic but didn't matter as we were flying high and going to grow. It all came crashing down and not through vision but necessity TF had to change with JFH and Sir Les coming in to stabilise and build the club up again the QPR way by cheaper signings with less reliance on mercaneries. If on the pitch and in the boardroom our club accept mistakes were made about how QPR were run, it's not unreasonable for the owner of CG to be entitled to highlight in his view his perceived errors of QPR when dealing with OOC.
I really cannot see the problem with CGs stance.

Agree with that Tblock. Good summary.