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That is so true. After all, we have survived in the Premier League, the training complex is being built at last, and our stadium plans have finally been approved.Banning people is no longer my hobby,
but take a look at my photo blog:
http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/
How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852
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Sure, but the weird thing is that the training complex and stadium make no difference at all to what actually matters, out there on the park. A lot of Rs fans couldn't give a shitabout either. Plenty of great sides have had training facilities no better than the ones currently in situ. The only thing that matters to me is being able to watch a side that can play a bit of football and put in a shift. There hasn't been too much evidence of either, but let's just see how we go.Originally posted by Kirill View PostThat is so true. After all, we have survived in the Premier League, the training complex is being built at last, and our stadium plans have finally been approved.
I have been very critical of TF but the truth is there are signs of stability on and off the park.
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No matter what division we are in?Originally posted by hal9thou View PostThe only thing that matters to me is being able to watch a side that can play a bit of football and put in a shift.Banning people is no longer my hobby,
but take a look at my photo blog:
http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/
How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852
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I think if we can achieve stability at this level - and clearly there are signs of that - I'd take it on the basis outlined above.Originally posted by Kirill View PostNo matter what division we are in?
They were in the old Div 3 when I started and to be honest most of the the eighty years up to then were characterised by total mediocrity. Then we started playing football which eventually took us as close as you can get to the summit. Then we had a bit of stop and start, and more recently we stopped again. What I'm saying is, in my time QPR have always benefitted when there has been a footballing culture. I really want that back again, maybe JFH can engender it, maybe he's still learning. But right now feels like stability compared to recent seasons, and stability is what you need to start playing again the way successful Rs teams always have ie #onthefvckingfloor
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So we are 11th in the table now and getting better every week as the manager starts to implement his style but you are still going on about going down the divisions.Originally posted by Kirill View PostNo matter what division we are in?
Where in truth, if we win four or five more games next season instead of drawing them we will be in the play off spots at the end of the season.Last edited by Kevin Mcleod; 04-03-2016, 12:37 PM.
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If he doesnt hold onto relegation then it will look like he's backtracking on the bet.Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostSo we are 11th in the table now and getting better every week as the manager starts to implement his style but you are still going on about going down the divisions.
Where in truth, if we win four or five more games next season instead of drawing them we will be in the play off spots at the end of the season.
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Don't worry, I won't.Originally posted by Hove Ranger View Post...it will look like he's backtracking on the bet.
I never backtrack on anything
Banning people is no longer my hobby,
but take a look at my photo blog:
http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/
How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.Originally posted by hal9thou View PostI think if we can achieve stability at this level - and clearly there are signs of that - I'd take it on the basis outlined above.
They were in the old Div 3 when I started and to be honest most of the the eighty years up to then were characterised by total mediocrity. Then we started playing football which eventually took us as close as you can get to the summit. Then we had a bit of stop and start, and more recently we stopped again. What I'm saying is, in my time QPR have always benefitted when there has been a footballing culture. I really want that back again, maybe JFH can engender it, maybe he's still learning. But right now feels like stability compared to recent seasons, and stability is what you need to start playing again the way successful Rs teams always have ie #onthefvckingfloor
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I love LR and whenever I bring new people to the stadium, they love the fact that you're so close to the pitch, but we do need a new stadium desperately. People complain about ticket prices, a new stadium will reduce them. People complain about the facilities at the club, a new stadium will improve that. There are so many more benefits to a new stadium, especially in our case that pushing through with the concept is something I think we need to do to develop as a football club.Originally posted by hh9 View PostI for one actually would like to have a new stadium - almost everything is out of date at LR"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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First things first Naz. Some stability on and off the park is absolutely the key issue.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostI love LR and whenever I bring new people to the stadium, they love the fact that you're so close to the pitch, but we do need a new stadium desperately. People complain about ticket prices, a new stadium will reduce them.
Beyond that, ask yourself what our average home attendance is before ordering a new stadium, bearing in mind that for smaller clubs media rights are a far more important source of income than bumsonseats - particularly in the EPL, which apparently is still our goal. And even in the prem, we are still a small club. Plus it is by no means axiomatic that a new stadium = lower ticket prices.... although WHU should be doing that given the level of taxpayer involvement ;)
I just want us to keep it real at the moment, a lot of our recent trauma comes from ludicrous aspirations.
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From what we hear, the stadium will be based around LR but just on a bigger scale - close to pitch, steep stands, proper acoustics. I am excited about the new stadium, even though it will take years.Originally posted by nasser95 View PostI love LR and whenever I bring new people to the stadium, they love the fact that you're so close to the pitch, but we do need a new stadium desperately. People complain about ticket prices, a new stadium will reduce them. People complain about the facilities at the club, a new stadium will improve that. There are so many more benefits to a new stadium, especially in our case that pushing through with the concept is something I think we need to do to develop as a football club.
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But with our current stadium we will always be a small club there should be no arguments about that.
Even bigger clubs get bigger with bigger stadiums just look at Arsenal, ManU and ManC
And remember our neighbours are planning a new stadium - I am worried that young people in West London would rather sit there than at crummy LR - so we will just become even smaller club
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The statement has been made in this interview that new stadium = cheaper tickets. This is what we are made aware of very specifically in this interview and I will take that for what it is. A stadium of our size is not sustainable in the long run for numerous reasons such as poor Corporate hospitality, poor facilities, limited interest in naming rights (which are a very big source of income). The aspiration for a new stadium in my opinion should not be something we consider ludicrous.Originally posted by hal9thou View PostFirst things first Naz. Some stability on and off the park is absolutely the key issue.
Beyond that, ask yourself what our average home attendance is before ordering a new stadium, bearing in mind that for smaller clubs media rights are a far more important source of income than bumsonseats - particularly in the EPL, which apparently is still our goal. And even in the prem, we are still a small club. Plus it is by no means axiomatic that a new stadium = lower ticket prices.... although WHU should be doing that given the level of taxpayer involvement ;)
I just want us to keep it real at the moment, a lot of our recent trauma comes from ludicrous aspirations."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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The reduction of ticket prices is forecast against the increase in corporate hospitality money. TF said it in his latest interviewOriginally posted by hal9thou View PostFirst things first Naz. Some stability on and off the park is absolutely the key issue.
Beyond that, ask yourself what our average home attendance is before ordering a new stadium, bearing in mind that for smaller clubs media rights are a far more important source of income than bumsonseats - particularly in the EPL, which apparently is still our goal. And even in the prem, we are still a small club. Plus it is by no means axiomatic that a new stadium = lower ticket prices.... although WHU should be doing that given the level of taxpayer involvement ;)
I just want us to keep it real at the moment, a lot of our recent trauma comes from ludicrous aspirations.
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