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  • Brian Wilson
    Silver Seat
    • Jul 2009
    • 4400

    #16
    Originally posted by californiahoop
    Well Derry has just taken the Cambridge Utd job so little truth in the Warnock Derry rumour.
    haha, yeah just saw that, kind kills my theory...though plans can change of course

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    • Maidohoops
      Apprentice
      • Aug 2011
      • 66

      #17
      I struggle to understand why we would go for Warnock. It is such a short term solution which will not benefit us in any way as far as balance and infrastructure are concerned. We need someone to build a squad and an infrastructure that can support us in the prem, not just get us there only to throw everyone away and start all over again in the summer.

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      • Maidohoops
        Apprentice
        • Aug 2011
        • 66

        #18
        Originally posted by dave58
        There are still managers who want sole control, which is fair enough, because if players are brought in he should bring them in, and they are his players not someone sitting in the background, because if it goes #### up the manager will get the blame, and we should be able to say you bought these players in its your team (like we were to H.R it was his players) rather than a team the manager is told to have and players he may not have wanted,
        I personally want someone in sole control of the way we play and the players on the pitch are his team. Part of Ramsey's demise may have been what he was told to have rather than what he wanted
        What about Warnock and his players?

        #Kieron Dyer
        #Danny Gabbidon
        #DJ Campbell
        #Brian Murphy
        #Joey Barton
        #Luke Young
        #Armand Traoré
        #Shaun Wright-Phillips
        #Anton Ferdinand

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        • Kevin Mcleod
          Referee
          • Aug 2013
          • 17322

          #19
          Originally posted by californiahoop
          Well Derry has just taken the Cambridge Utd job so little truth in the Warnock Derry rumour.
          Do they never get bored of making up nothing stories about us. An ex manager liked by everyone at the club was brought in to help out and be around to take over when the rookie manager who failed was sacked. They just love to change it into this eastern Dersingham style soap opera and sensationalism.

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          • Kevin Mcleod
            Referee
            • Aug 2013
            • 17322

            #20
            Originally posted by Stanley
            And to think the official line we were fed was it was Ramsey who made the initial approach to Warnock over re-joining the club as 1st team adviser.
            And Brian did say 'personally feel' Stan, now we are calling warnock snakey etc over someones personal feeling.

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            • QPRDave
              The number 10
              • Mar 2009
              • 32075

              #21
              Seems a bit far fetched to me. I never believe any paper.

              Why would Ramsey want to work at QPR again, regardless of whether NW is manager or not?
              Why would QPR scrap the dof system after what, less than a year?
              The whole point was to oversee everything not just the 1st team.

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              • West Acton
                CCG
                • Dec 2009
                • 21475

                #22
                As soon as article said Ferinand want Ramsey to arise control you could tell it's made up as if Les wanted that he would have stopped interfering and let Ramsry get on with the job and live and die by his own decisions

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                • Lunar Jetman
                  Silver Seat
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 1380

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                  And Brian did say 'personally feel' Stan, now we are calling warnock snakey etc over someones personal feeling.
                  Well it was TF who approached Warnock and not Ramsey though......

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                  • Kevin Mcleod
                    Referee
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 17322

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lunar Jetman
                    Well it was TF who approached Warnock and not Ramsey though......
                    Do we know that as a fact? Ramsey said he asked for some help from a more experienced head. Is lying to the press even if its you getting undermined part of the head coach remit?

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                    • Hertford Hoop
                      W12 Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 15998

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Stanley
                      And to think the official line we were fed was it was Ramsey who made the initial approach to Warnock over re-joining the club as 1st team adviser.
                      I don't think anyone truly believed that Stan, Ramsey would have never brought in someone like that imo
                      I blew a lot on vodka and tonic, gambling and fags. Looking back, I think I overdid it on the tonic. - The one and only Stanley Bowles

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                      • dogsrrs
                        Gold Seat
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 6671

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Maidohoops
                        What about Warnock and his players?

                        #Kieron Dyer
                        #Danny Gabbidon
                        #DJ Campbell
                        #Brian Murphy
                        #Joey Barton
                        #Luke Young
                        #Armand Traoré
                        #Shaun Wright-Phillips
                        #Anton Ferdinand
                        Maido Warnock had a fortnight of a transfer window in which most of the decent available players had gone so don't throw that one at him

                        Now if your for or against Warnock think about Preston whether Warnock got tore into the players or not he has the players on side which is more than Ramsey had

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                        • Stanley
                          Guest
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23693

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                          And Brian did say 'personally feel' Stan, now we are calling warnock snakey etc over someones personal feeling.
                          Hopefully all just paper talk and you're right Kev, but you just never know with the QPR circus. #smokewithoutfire?

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                          • QPRDave
                            The number 10
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 32075

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
                            Do we know that as a fact? Ramsey said he asked for some help from a more experienced head. Is lying to the press even if its you getting undermined part of the head coach remit?
                            Good point. I saw footage of CR & NW before the derby game chatting and smiling to another bloke. If CR wasn't comfortable
                            with NW being here surely he wouldn't be passing the time or listening to anecdotes with him

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                            • Kevin Mcleod
                              Referee
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 17322

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Stanley
                              Hopefully all just paper talk and you're right Kev, but you just never know with the QPR circus. #smokewithoutfire?
                              I know Stan, I just want it all to stop and the team to start going on a winning/unbeaten run. So boring now.

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                              • Kevin Mcleod
                                Referee
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 17322

                                #30
                                Originally posted by QPRDave
                                Good point. I saw footage of CR & NW before the derby game chatting and smiling to another bloke. If CR wasn't comfortable
                                with NW being here surely he wouldn't be passing the time or listening to anecdotes with him
                                I think it is feasible that Ramsey could see he was very close to getting the chop and asked if they could get Warnock to help him as his last throw of the dice to save his job, cos I do also believe he loved that job so much.

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