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  • QPR17
    Bronze Seat
    • Jul 2012
    • 351

    #16
    Originally posted by West London is Rss
    Our owners have access to astronomical amounts of money, because of this and the mind-warping big club Hughes/Redknapp era, SOME fans expect the best every season from now on.
    The owners do yeah. I'd love for them to be able to use that wealth as does every fan of course. I don't know how they can put that wealth into the club anymore though without breaking the rules.

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    • Jeffqpr
      Silver Seat
      • Jun 2015
      • 1839

      #17
      Originally posted by QPR17
      I went on holiday after our 3 wins in a row. Positivity was flowing, people were talking about play offs and promotion. We were scoring goals and looking good.

      Two games later look at you all. The fans of this club disgust me. How can we all be so fickle and turn so quickly. We got relegated and are trying to build something new which takes more than all few games. We have done the revolving door system. Why can't people have patience!

      I honestly belive we have some of the worst fans in the league. We never give anyone a chance, player or manager. We suck all confidence out of the players with poor atmospheres and scapegoating players as 'unless' after one poor game.

      Let's just get behind the team. We are all supposed to be together. COME ON YOU R'SSSSS
      At last someone with a bit of sense & good thread qpr17, totally agree but you get the usual suspects on here going into meltdown after a couple of indifferent performances, ok should have done better but that's football, guys need to chill out.

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      • QPR17
        Bronze Seat
        • Jul 2012
        • 351

        #18
        I am not sure I agree. How many premier league quality players are there in our squad? Not any more than a lot of clubs in the championship

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        • West London is Rss
          Gold Seat
          • Jun 2013
          • 6372

          #19
          Originally posted by QPR17
          The owners do yeah. I'd love for them to be able to use that wealth as does every fan of course. I don't know how they can put that wealth into the club anymore though without breaking the rules.
          They did use a lot of that wealth originally and unfortunately/oddly enough, it got us to back where we started, in the champ with tight purse strings because of FFP.
          It only takes a club to spend £8m on one player for fans expectations to raise - It's natural. It's just unfortunate that some fans expectations haven't lowered since we 1st spent £8-£10 on a Remy or Samba.

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          • QPR17
            Bronze Seat
            • Jul 2012
            • 351

            #20
            Originally posted by West London is Rss
            They did use a lot of that wealth originally and unfortunately/oddly enough, it got us to back where we started, in the champ with tight purse strings because of FFP.
            It only takes a club to spend £8m on one player for fans expectations to raise - It's natural. It's just unfortunate that some fans expectations haven't lowered since we 1st spent £8-£10 on a Remy or Samba.
            Very fair post. Maybe people need to get expectations back in line. We can't spend like that anymore.

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            • brightonr
              Banned
              • Mar 2009
              • 10922

              #21
              Whilst I would agree that this is a pretty competetive league and that there are no "easy games" as such, most of us would agree that we have at our disposal, pretty much the best squad of players.

              Irrespective of this, success will never be achieved unless those players are working as hard as the opposition, the manager selects the right teams and when he does, they perform close to their best.

              It seems to me that the opposition are always working harder, are more committed and better organised than us. The team selection leaves a lot to be desired, with the inclusion of Toszer and Henry last night after being so poor on Saturday, one obvious example. And I have yet to see anybody perform even close to their best.

              Now, you can blame the fans all you like and you may have a point about them being a bit up and down, but the fact is that the things that are causing us to look as bad as we have been, are pretty much all down to the manager's choices as to who he plays, in which position and the tactics he utilises. We should certainly be playing much better than we are, regardless of results. Although I would suspect that better performances would generally equal better results. They usually do.

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              • yugohoop
                Bronze Seat
                • Apr 2009
                • 808

                #22
                I can't speak for others but i'm upset because when i watch us play all i see is...



                .....and it's winding me up.

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                • Ramsey is god

                  #23
                  Cant see why people keep saying we have the best squad. Those who were here last year finished bottom of the league and were outclassed weekly by prem opposition. Those who have come in have either come from lower leagues or not as competitive foreign leagues.

                  People need to stop thinking we have this right to win the league because of who we are.

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                  • QPR17
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 351

                    #24
                    Originally posted by brightonr
                    Whilst I would agree that this is a pretty competetive league and that there are no "easy games" as such, most of us would agree that we have at our disposal, pretty much the best squad of players.

                    Irrespective of this, success will never be achieved unless those players are working as hard as the opposition, the manager selects the right teams and when he does, they perform close to their best.

                    It seems to me that the opposition are always working harder, are more committed and better organised than us. The team selection leaves a lot to be desired, with the inclusion of Toszer and Henry last night after being so poor on Saturday, one obvious example. And I have yet to see anybody perform even close to their best.

                    Now, you can blame the fans all you like and you may have a point about them being a bit up and down, but the fact is that the things that are causing us to look as bad as we have been, are pretty much all down to the manager's choices as to who he plays, in which position and the tactics he utilises. We should certainly be playing much better than we are, regardless of results. Although I would suspect that better performances would generally equal better results. They usually do.
                    Blame the fans all I like? Blaming them for what? We are exactly where we thought we might be at this stage of the season. All going to plan so far as far as I can see so no one to blame ... ok performance have to/will get better.

                    I personally cannot understand people who don't see that encouragement and support breeds confidence. Confidence = better performances. So let's try and do our bit to have the best season we can and get behind the team.

                    Just look at Chelsea. No confidence and they are turning to ####. Can happen to the best. We need to play our part.

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                    • QPR17
                      Bronze Seat
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 351

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Ramsey is god
                      Cant see why people keep saying we have the best squad. Those who were here last year finished bottom of the league and were outclassed weekly by prem opposition. Those who have come in have either come from lower leagues or not as competitive foreign leagues.

                      People need to stop thinking we have this right to win the league because of who we are.
                      exactly this.

                      we have no right! A small team in a hard league.

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                      • ChiswickHoop
                        Apprentice
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 50

                        #26
                        I think the issue I have, and I suspect a few others have, isnt so much to do with league position and a divine right to be top of the table due to our resources, its more that the football we dish up is SO BORING!

                        It really is no improvement from the dross we had to watch with Harry.

                        Ramseys had enough time. Biggest mistake we made was not giving the job to Warburton.

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                        • QPR17
                          Bronze Seat
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 351

                          #27
                          Originally posted by ChiswickHoop
                          I think the issue I have, and I suspect a few others have, isnt so much to do with league position and a divine right to be top of the table due to our resources, its more that the football we dish up is SO BORING!

                          It really is no improvement from the dross we had to watch with Harry.

                          Ramseys had enough time. Biggest mistake we made was not giving the job to Warburton.
                          true as that may be I remember in the championship under Sousa. Worst football I had ever seen. Horrible horrible football but the fans were never this bad. Why now are the fans so much more vocal in putting down the manager and players?

                          I can see Luongo's potential but I really worry if people start getting on his back at this stage what chance has he got?

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                          • Johnnykc
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2146

                            #28
                            Originally posted by MattyRangers
                            Good post tbf. We all vent our frustrations after a bad performance (me included), but those that don't say a word when we win 3 in a row then start threads calling for Ramsey to be sacked when we have a bad performance or 2 are willys.
                            That made me laugh.....

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                            • ChiswickHoop
                              Apprentice
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 50

                              #29
                              Originally posted by QPR17
                              true as that may be I remember in the championship under Sousa. Worst football I had ever seen. Horrible horrible football but the fans were never this bad. Why now are the fans so much more vocal in putting down the manager and players?

                              I can see Luongo's potential but I really worry if people start getting on his back at this stage what chance has he got?

                              I really dont think the football to watch has ever been this bad to watch then it has been under Harry and this clown Ramsey.

                              Soussa football was no way near as bad as this. Holloway, warnock, even hughes and Magilton was a lot more exciting than this. Im bored to tears of the way we play football.

                              Luongo agreed has promise, as does chery, and cant see the fans getting on their backs as most recognise that. Its the likes of Karl Henry i worry for!

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                              • QPR17
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 351

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ChiswickHoop
                                I really dont think the football to watch has ever been this bad to watch then it has been under Harry and this clown Ramsey.

                                Soussa football was no way near as bad as this. Holloway, warnock, even hughes and Magilton was a lot more exciting than this. Im bored to tears of the way we play football.

                                Luongo agreed has promise, as does chery, and cant see the fans getting on their backs as most recognise that. Its the likes of Karl Henry i worry for!
                                oh come on! If I remember rightly we didn't score a goal for nearly 2 months at one point under Soussa! We are still scoring a lot of goals under Ramsey!

                                Well all I saw on twitter after last game was Luongo getting a slaying !

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