Could Consolidation = Mediocrity for the foreseeable?

[QPRDave]

Keep hearing Ramsey tell us we're not thinking about promotion and consolidation is his main aim.
Also hear some fans and journos voice the same.
With this huge TV deal kicking in at the season's end, can we afford to miss the gravy train again?
I cannot see training facilities and a new stadium being built for a going nowhere championship club.
Derby and Boro have recognised the importance of this season and are going for it, while we are buying
for the future sell on price tag.
This deal imo will finally bring about the "closed shop" Premier league, and the rest of us will be paddling
our canoe against a rip current with a tea spoon....Was that as it?...As good as it got for us?

[Fordy]

Keep hearing Ramsey tell us we're not thinking about promotion and consolidation is his main aim.
Also hear some fans and journos voice the same.
With this huge TV deal kicking in at the season's end, can we afford to miss the gravy train again?
I cannot see training facilities and a new stadium being built for a going nowhere championship club.
Derby and Boro have recognised the importance of this season and are going for it, while we are buying
for the future sell on price tag.
This deal imo will finally bring about the "closed shop" Premier league, and the rest of us will be paddling
our canoe against a rip current with a tea spoon....Was that as it?...As good as it got for us?

I see Derby have signed Burnleys captain Shackell, thought he was one of their best players. They are deffo going for it. With the signings that we have made to me it looks like a mid table finish is the target tbh. We won't be spending much more money regardless who goes.

[Hubble]

Keep hearing Ramsey tell us we're not thinking about promotion and consolidation is his main aim.
Also hear some fans and journos voice the same.
With this huge TV deal kicking in at the season's end, can we afford to miss the gravy train again?
I cannot see training facilities and a new stadium being built for a going nowhere championship club.
Derby and Boro have recognised the importance of this season and are going for it, while we are buying
for the future sell on price tag.
This deal imo will finally bring about the "closed shop" Premier league, and the rest of us will be paddling
our canoe against a rip current with a tea spoon....Was that as it?...As good as it got for us?

Thing is Dave, we can't guarantee promotion, no matter how much we spend. So I think the answer to your question is probably yes, consolidation may well mean mediocrity for the foreseeable future. I think it's something we're going to have to get used to, as the rebuild takes place. But I would hope we're only talking a couple of seasons.

[Ginger Ninja]

I'll take mediocrity for a few seasons over going up and getting hammered all season again, every day of the week.

[klonk]

Thing is Dave, we can't guarantee promotion, no matter how much we spend. So I think the answer to your question is probably yes, consolidation may well mean mediocrity for the foreseeable future. I think it's something we're going to have to get used to, as the rebuild takes place. But I would hope we're only talking a couple of seasons.

whatever team we turn out next season is going to need time to gel, whether we splash the cash or not. this is going to be a season of transition.

everyone forgets how difficult it is to go straight back up - very few teams manage to do it.

the championship is a very tight unpredictable league... how the bookies see it a day or 2 before the season starts and how it ends up is always way different.

[QPRDave]

I'll take mediocrity for a few seasons over going up and getting hammered all season again, every day of the week.

Mediocrity forever?....That's my point, about a closed shop Prem...Yeah no ones wants to see their team get hammered
but I would say a team with no ambition is worse, after the ride we've had since Warnock....As I ask...Is that it?

[Shepherds Mush]

I'll take mediocrity for a few seasons over going up and getting hammered all season again, every day of the week.

Me too.

In addition, Derby and Boro may be going all out for promotion but it doesn't guarantee they will get it.

[Hitman34]

Keep hearing Ramsey tell us we're not thinking about promotion and consolidation is his main aim.
Also hear some fans and journos voice the same.
With this huge TV deal kicking in at the season's end, can we afford to miss the gravy train again?
I cannot see training facilities and a new stadium being built for a going nowhere championship club.
Derby and Boro have recognised the importance of this season and are going for it, while we are buying
for the future sell on price tag.
This deal imo will finally bring about the "closed shop" Premier league, and the rest of us will be paddling
our canoe against a rip current with a tea spoon....Was that as it?...As good as it got for us?

Well, according to some on here we are a shoe in the playoffs and one or two are saying we will go up automatic.

so it seems ramsey is talking out of his ar se.

[WeAreQPR12]

When did derby become promotion fav. I don't care if their manager coached at real Madrid, as long as Darren Bent stays fit they will struggle to make the playoffs! Boro will do well though

[QPRDave]

Well, according to some on here we are a shoe in the playoffs and one or two are saying we will go up automatic.

so it seems ramsey is talking out of his ar se.

By the time we finish selling hits, I wonder what Chery will be thinking.

[QPRDave]

When did derby become promotion fav. I don't care if their manager coached at real Madrid, as long as Darren Bent stays fit they will struggle to make the playoffs! Boro will do well though

Since they added Shakell, Ince,Pearce,Weimann, to a decent set of players

[MattyRangers]

I'll take mediocrity for a few seasons over going up and getting hammered all season again, every day of the week.

Take it? I'm HOPING for it i really want a stable season getting back to a level we should be at. Steady the ship.

[QprQpr]

Well, according to some on here we are a shoe in the playoffs and one or two are saying we will go up automatic.

so it seems ramsey is talking out of his ar se.

[Timmy the Doc]

I'll take mediocrity for a few seasons over going up and getting hammered all season again, every day of the week.

I would take promotion over mediocrity every day of the week.

[winalotto]

Keep hearing Ramsey tell us we're not thinking about promotion and consolidation is his main aim.
Also hear some fans and journos voice the same.
With this huge TV deal kicking in at the season's end, can we afford to miss the gravy train again?
I cannot see training facilities and a new stadium being built for a going nowhere championship club.
Derby and Boro have recognised the importance of this season and are going for it, while we are buying
for the future sell on price tag.
This deal imo will finally bring about the "closed shop" Premier league, and the rest of us will be paddling
our canoe against a rip current with a tea spoon....Was that as it?...As good as it got for us?

To be fair we are no-where near a prem league side, set up (team) or infrastructure , if you gamble as you say all your doing is throwing money at it as we did the last time, we can't secure a premier league place with our ground fan base we don't get the income to do so without racking up massive debt. The prem league is an elite league already, i can see the Championship being very similar soon probably a prem league two with all the money filtering down the championship is getting stronger now every season. If like Qpr you change philosophy there has to be a period of consolidation ( because we simply will not throw money at a lost cause now) , dont see the harm of reminding fans that really don't, listen we could get lucky and have a great season and go up, but the likelihood is we need a couple of seasons to catch breath and try again.