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  • surrey_hoop
    Silver Seat
    • Jun 2014
    • 1834

    #46
    Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
    Agree. This ''give our youngster a chance'' is just ######## if we try to get promoted.
    I'm all for the club keeping one eye on the future (especially after the last 4 years or so of handing out huge contracts to players who were past their best), but if we really have designs on promotion we need a handful of campaigners who know the league and will get in the trenches for 46 games. We had it in the NW era with the likes of Hill, Derry, Kenny, Smith, Mackie, Helguson, Gorkss etc. - players who knew their limitations, but would run through a brick wall if asked to. That's what gets you out of this division. I look at this current squad, and although it is undoubtedly far more talented, I think we are lacking those type of players at present. Guediora would help recitfy that.
    Last edited by surrey_hoop; 23-07-2015, 12:31 PM.

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    • Hove Ranger
      Silver Seat
      • Aug 2011
      • 4441

      #47
      Originally posted by Tarbie
      I think it's more of a case of being concerned that we might be heading into a season with a massively unbalanced squad for the 3rd season running. At the moment we have an embarrassment of riches in the midfield and we don't have a enough defenders to name a match day squad.

      Personally I think we'll get it sorted before deadline day but we've been here before haven't we?
      Well they should voice it as such instead of saying the board are useless etc. because we are signing a midfielder and not a defender (even though nobody knows what is actually going on, people will still believe the papers and blame the club). I agree that we have been in this situ before but I would hope, as many have voiced recently, that this is a new approach with Les as DOF so previous comparisons are somewhat defunct (unless you believe nothing has changed since Harold?). At the moment we are well stocked with midfielders but the club may have highlighted who they want to move on and thus need replacements. You cannot really analyse until the window shuts (and even then we can still loan players) but I believe that the club are working on defenders (hence the link to fredericks recently and Schorch on trial) and will fill the other positions once the key players move on (mainly for financial reasons). No need to panic really, just some people are missing their football fix over the summer and are very impatient. Happens every year.

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      • Nick
        Gold Seat
        • Oct 2013
        • 5593

        #48
        Originally posted by surrey_hoop
        Knows the Championship like the back of his hand, 29 and still in his prime, Algerian International, just went up with Watford...honestly don't see what the problem is with this one. We can't keep signing kids.
        Exactly, you've hit the nail on the head for me!!.... Im all for and tbf always have been very pro on 'give the youngsters a go' but we cant just overload with them, we need a good mix aswell (ie Mackie)... would be a very good signing imho.
        SIR LESLIE FERDINAND!!

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        • Timmy the Doc
          Silver Seat
          • Jan 2012
          • 3193

          #49
          Thinking future and signing young talented players is marvellous, but none of our own youngsters are good enough for the Championship.

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          • Ginger Ninja
            W12 Seat
            • Jan 2010
            • 17458

            #50
            Originally posted by Timmy the Doc
            Thinking future and signing young talented players is marvellous, but none of our own youngsters are good enough for the Championship.
            Michael Doughty is. Mark my words. He will play more games this season and will do well.
            Top Scorers 2018/2019

            Nakhi Wells - 8
            Pawel Wszolek - 6
            Luke Freeman - 6
            Matt Smith - 6
            Ebere Eze - 4
            Joel Lynch - 3
            Tomer Hemed - 3
            Toni Leistner - 2
            Massimo Luongo- 2
            Angel Rangel - 2
            Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
            Geoff Cameron - 1
            Aramide Oteh - 1
            Jake Bidwell - 1
            Jordan Cousins - 1

            Summer Transfers 2019

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            • palace-fan-in-peace
              Apprentice
              • May 2015
              • 22

              #51
              Guediora is a really fun player to watch.
              Lots of flair and ability.

              Maybe a bit inconsistent, but a good player anyhow.
              Will improve your squad for sure.

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              • Itsonlyagame
                Silver Seat
                • Jul 2015
                • 2053

                #52
                Originally posted by palace-fan-in-peace
                Guediora is a really fun player to watch.
                Lots of flair and ability.

                Maybe a bit inconsistent, but a good player anyhow.
                Will improve your squad for sure.
                Stupendous, I love watching really fun players !
                “He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
                Will Danaher

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                • QPRDave
                  The number 10
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 32060

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Ginger Ninja
                  Michael Doughty is. Mark my words. He will play more games this season and will do well.
                  Hope he makes it......watched him for ages now. In reserves games under NW

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                  • Fordy
                    Silver Seat
                    • May 2011
                    • 4281

                    #54
                    Originally posted by QPRDave
                    Hope he makes it......watched him for ages now. In reserves games under NW
                    Not too sure on him, didn't look that good yesterday. Kid deserves a chance though been here long enough.

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                    • West Acton
                      CCG
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 21475

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Fordy
                      Not too sure on him, didn't look that good yesterday. Kid deserves a chance though been here long enough.
                      Agree mate covers a lot of ground on pitch but hard to say what he actually offers

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                      • Ginger Ninja
                        W12 Seat
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 17458

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Fordy
                        Not too sure on him, didn't look that good yesterday. Kid deserves a chance though been here long enough.
                        Pre season though. I was impressed when he played for us last season. Good young player imo and has been with us long enough to finally deserve a proper chance.
                        Top Scorers 2018/2019

                        Nakhi Wells - 8
                        Pawel Wszolek - 6
                        Luke Freeman - 6
                        Matt Smith - 6
                        Ebere Eze - 4
                        Joel Lynch - 3
                        Tomer Hemed - 3
                        Toni Leistner - 2
                        Massimo Luongo- 2
                        Angel Rangel - 2
                        Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                        Geoff Cameron - 1
                        Aramide Oteh - 1
                        Jake Bidwell - 1
                        Jordan Cousins - 1

                        Summer Transfers 2019

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                        • Glevum_Hoop
                          Bronze Seat
                          • May 2012
                          • 482

                          #57
                          Palaces Adlene Guedioura linked again

                          Quotes from Ramsey ref need for playmaker and link to Adlene Guedioura as possible solution.



                          Have we just bought this type of player in Cherry? Or is this a more deep lying midfielder?
                          Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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                          • Stanley
                            Guest
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23695

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Glevum_Hoop
                            Quotes from Ramsey ref need for playmaker and link to Adlene Guedioura as possible solution.



                            Have we just bought this type of player in Cherry? Or is this a more deep lying midfielder?
                            Luongo is a deep lying midfielder.

                            Guedioura is a CM.

                            Chery is an attacking midfielder (number 10) who can also play on either wing

                            CR ideally wants two players for each position, I suspect. Plus it looks like he plans to utilise a variety of formations depending on the opposition.

                            To quote Ramsey:

                            “He’s (Guedioura) good on the ball and he’s another playmaker I think we need.

                            If you have people like Jamie Mackie who lies to make runs, you do need people who can knock the ball about, and we need to change the perception of where we were last season when we went directly early, and play a slightly more attractive game of football.

                            We do need more quality players.”

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                            • Ginger Ninja
                              W12 Seat
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 17458

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Stanley
                              Luongo is a deep lying midfielder.

                              Guedioura is a CM.

                              Chery is an attacking midfielder (number 10) who can also play on either wing

                              CR ideally wants two players for each position, I suspect. Plus it looks like he plans to utilise a variety of formations depending on the opposition.

                              To quote Ramsey:

                              “He’s (Guedioura) good on the ball and he’s another playmaker I think we need.

                              If you have people like Jamie Mackie who lies to make runs, you do need people who can knock the ball about, and we need to change the perception of where we were last season when we went directly early, and play a slightly more attractive game of football.

                              We do need more quality players.”
                              Didnt Guediora play on the wing for Watford last season?
                              Top Scorers 2018/2019

                              Nakhi Wells - 8
                              Pawel Wszolek - 6
                              Luke Freeman - 6
                              Matt Smith - 6
                              Ebere Eze - 4
                              Joel Lynch - 3
                              Tomer Hemed - 3
                              Toni Leistner - 2
                              Massimo Luongo- 2
                              Angel Rangel - 2
                              Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                              Geoff Cameron - 1
                              Aramide Oteh - 1
                              Jake Bidwell - 1
                              Jordan Cousins - 1

                              Summer Transfers 2019

                              IN


                              OUT

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                              • californiahoop
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 4932

                                #60
                                Perch and this guy brings quality and experience, I still think Henry will go.
                                Kept the faith!

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