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  • Yousef
    Gold Seat
    • Jul 2009
    • 9553

    #31
    He wouldn't have said so If bids had come.
    QPR fan since1987

    @yousef_qpr

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    • nasser95
      Gold Seat
      • Dec 2012
      • 7216

      #32
      Originally posted by Yousef
      He wouldn't have said so If bids had come.
      We cannot suggest anything like that, we don't actually know at all and assuming the worst isn't a great idea in all honesty.
      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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      • MattyRangers
        Slimmer of The Year
        • Jun 2011
        • 24914

        #33
        Originally posted by nasser95
        Tyler Blackett and Michael Keane? Jheeze man, I like you a lot matty but calling Keane and especially Blackett a better defender than Caulker is a bit ludicrous. Jones is overall a better footballer without a doubt and same for stones, but they are no way better tacklers than Caulker. Not by any stretch.
        In your opinion, of course.

        There is no chance whasoever that "Caulker is probably england's most naturally gifted young centre back when it comes to the defensive side of the game".
        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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        • Rangers77
          Platinum Seat
          • Aug 2012
          • 11808

          #34
          Originally posted by MattyRangers
          In your opinion, of course.

          There is no chance whasoever that "Caulker is probably england's most naturally gifted young centre back when it comes to the defensive side of the game".
          His opinion is the opinion. What are you thinking of taking a contrary view.....? Caulker is God in his eyes because, er, he plays for Rangers.......

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          • dogsrrs
            Gold Seat
            • Mar 2013
            • 6671

            #35
            Nothing like laying in bed can't sleep thinking ,then realise and come to terms with yourself
            yes I am a useless pile of shlt , I'll keep my mouth shut I ve got a good kip here
            Last edited by dogsrrs; 08-07-2015, 09:13 AM.

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            • nasser95
              Gold Seat
              • Dec 2012
              • 7216

              #36
              Originally posted by Rangers77
              His opinion is the opinion. What are you thinking of taking a contrary view.....? Caulker is God in his eyes because, er, he plays for Rangers.......
              You seem to dislike all of our defense to be honest even if they haven't done much wrong but that's your opinion to have. I'm just saying that I have watched this lot for years, caulker is the best of them in terms of ability to win the ball back based on what I have seen. Jones is sought after because of his work ethic and versatility, smalling isn't a bad defender and has height to his advantage and pace. Stones is young but not a great ball winner, rather a ball player and Blackett is a bit of a joke of a defender in all honesty. IMO
              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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              • maidstone_hoop
                Gold Seat
                • May 2009
                • 6718

                #37
                Originally posted by nasser95
                Caulker is probably england's most naturally gifted young centre back when it comes to the defensive side of the game. His issue is purely focus. If he can build on that, given how fast he is and how good he is in the tackle, he will get an England cap again very soon.

                No chance mate. I agree with matty on this 100%.

                I'm a massive caulker fan and I believe if he stays he's the best cb in the championship alongside ned all day no arguments. But after last years display whatever the excuse you can be banding around statements like that.
                He's got massive potential but he has to perform consistently to deserve the type of credit you have just given him. Stones, smalling, Jones are miles ahead of him atm.

                This year will do him the world of good and I think he'll be colossal for us and him and ned will be part of the reason we will be near the top. We won't let many goals in next year. His big season will be the one after and to see whether he can take newly found confidence and play at a high standard week in week out in the Orem league which arguably stones, smalling and Jones do.

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                • nasser95
                  Gold Seat
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7216

                  #38
                  Originally posted by maidstone_hoop
                  No chance mate. I agree with matty on this 100%.

                  I'm a massive caulker fan and I believe if he stays he's the best cb in the championship alongside ned all day no arguments. But after last years display whatever the excuse you can be banding around statements like that.
                  He's got massive potential but he has to perform consistently to deserve the type of credit you have just given him. Stones, smalling, Jones are miles ahead of him atm.

                  This year will do him the world of good and I think he'll be colossal for us and him and ned will be part of the reason we will be near the top. We won't let many goals in next year. His big season will be the one after and to see whether he can take newly found confidence and play at a high standard week in week out in the Orem league which arguably stones, smalling and Jones do.
                  Honestly don't see what stones has done to be in that region other than being young and overhyped. He is a ball player, not a tackler. Caulker has shown by being in the prem for the last 4 years and having been considered a success in general that he is a very Naturally gifted tackler and ball winner. This isn't to say he is always the best at this, but when he has that focus that he seems to find such an inconsistent prospect, he is better than those 4 technically in the challenge. He just needs to read the game significantly better IMO.
                  "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                  • Rangers77
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 11808

                    #39
                    Originally posted by nasser95
                    You seem to dislike all of our defense to be honest even if they haven't done much wrong but that's your opinion to have. I'm just saying that I have watched this lot for years, caulker is the best of them in terms of ability to win the ball back based on what I have seen. Jones is sought after because of his work ethic and versatility, smalling isn't a bad defender and has height to his advantage and pace. Stones is young but not a great ball winner, rather a ball player and Blackett is a bit of a joke of a defender in all honesty. IMO


                    Worst goal difference in the PL at -31 (Burnley were -25 and Hull -18). Most goals conceded at 73 (20 more than Burnley and 22 more than Hull)......

                    And, yep. I'm well know for my dislike of Clint Hill round these parts......

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                    • AndoverRanger
                      Apprentice
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 96

                      #40
                      I'm sure there was a piece before where Chris Ramsey defended Caulker by saying he was playing with injuries for the majority of last season? I highly rated him when he played for Cardiff. He didn't have a good season last season but I think he is a good squad player. I'm happy if he stays with us for the following season.

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                      • Hove Ranger
                        Silver Seat
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 4441

                        #41
                        I think the difference between Caulker and the others being mentioned (jones, stones, smalling) is that they probably arent on the lash most weeks, getting in scuffles and "falling over" when out, while turning in disinterested performances contributing to the teams demise. I couldnt imagine LVG would stand for jones or smalling living a similar lifestyle as caulker. The problem we had/have with caulker is that he knows he is number 1 and there isnt anyone to push him or keep him on his toes. I hope a year in the championship is the kick up the a*se or rude awakening that he needs and he learns/grows/realises from this and becomes the player many over the years have said he can be. Wouldnt be surprised to see him snapped up by someone over the summer though (despite the interview he gave the other day)

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                        • bakes8
                          Silver Seat
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 4561

                          #42
                          Personally think Caulker should be given the armband and he will probably be the best CB in the division.

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                          • Brian Wilson
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 4400

                            #43
                            Gut feeling that he will never be a success at this club and we should get rid if a decent offer comes in. Has had quite a few off the pitch issues too which suggests all is not well.

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                            • Shepherds Mush
                              Platinum Seat
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 10325

                              #44
                              Originally posted by bakes8
                              Personally think Caulker should be given the armband and he will probably be the best CB in the division.
                              If anyone at the back gets the armband it should (and probably will) be the Chief.

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                              • stationcafe
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Feb 2014
                                • 747

                                #45
                                He's got a good contract playing for a club near his home, realistically no premiership team will offer him what he';s on after his horror show last season and he's still young. He'll be here for a while longer imo. Hopefully he improves in the Championship

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                                nasser you're nuts if you think he;'s better than Chambers, Blackett, Stones, Dier, even Michael Keane. Just got overhyped for scoring a few headers.

                                We CANNOT make him captain. Caulker was as bad a signing as we made last year and key to our relegation.

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