points

[bushcelt1]

I give up

Thank god

[QPRDave]

[MYU]

Thankyou MYU no vendetta just making my point and yes you can have an opinion but find your
support of him totally baffling and illogical.

I know you have no vendetta, some people just have a habit to twist what you say. Happens on many threads and it's one the reasons why people no longer want to post.

[Kevin Mcleod]

I know you have no vendetta, some people just have a habit to twist what you say. Happens on many threads and it's one the reasons why people no longer want to post.

How come you are so sure? Go through his profile and posts and show us one single post saying anything good or positive about qpr. Go on try it myu, i dare you.
Vedetta for certain imho. Think you have got your wires crossed a bit mate. Its the people carnting the club non stop stopping people posting imo.

[Stanley]

I know you have no vendetta, some people just have a habit to twist what you say. Happens on many threads and it's one the reasons why people no longer want to post.

Not sure I agree with that Myu. Posters come and go mate. Same with all forums. There's all types of posters: long term regulars; occasionals; lurkers; ones who read but rarely post etc. But I don't think the reasons you cite largely account for why people choose to come and go. At least that's not my perception.

[nasser95]

I give up

that's good

[Kirill]

42

[12321]

42

On the level?

[QPRDave]

I know you have no vendetta, some people just have a habit to twist what you say. Happens on many threads and it's one the reasons why people no longer want to post.

what you f**kin getting at myu?.....the bloke has clearly said that no wins can be attributed to the manager but all the defeats can.....yet you're saying i twist his words?, and my fault people stop posting
on here?.....

[West London is Rss]

I think its crazy to say none of it was HR's fault Dave. The players may be the one that go out on the pitch and win the games but don't you ask yourself why HR didn't win any away games at the helm.. and Ramsey come in and won his 1st one.

Its not all about players mate. Havent you noticed the players comments now under Ramsey.. They have been like this..'we go out there and know our jobs. We're organised and we are told to express and enjoy ourselves'.

It also helps when the manager plays players in their actual positions... Players can go out there and win games but its a lot harder when their told to play in positions they have never played before!

In answer to your question Bill... I would say about 10 points as well.

[Garyd73]

You could just as easily ask know many points did he save us, our home form has been more than acceptable this season and we have got more than I expected at this stage of the season. Away less so.

[QPRDave]

I think its crazy to say none of it was HR's fault Dave. The players may be the one that go out on the pitch and win the games but don't you ask yourself why HR didn't win any away games at the helm.. and Ramsey come in and won his 1st one.

Its not all about players mate. Havent you noticed the players comments now under Ramsey.. They have been like this..'we go out there and know our jobs. We're organised and we are told to express and enjoy ourselves'.

It also helps when the manager plays players in their actual positions... Players can go out there and win games but its a lot harder when their told to play in positions they have never played before!

In answer to your question Bill... I would say about 10 points as well.

Read it mate, and read the other dross bill has been posting. You can't "credit" him with every defeat, but say the wins are all down to the players....imo
The truth?.....Seeing as I'm speaking to sensible fan.......buck stopped with him. He was the manager and every defeat (other than maybe some monumental c**kup/fluke goal)
was down to him and the management team.
They carry the can

[Shania]

9 to 12 Points, I Guess. Yes, tactically he was that bad,IMO.