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"What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNo better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
With the players at his disposal you'd of done a better job.
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNo better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.We Are The People.....
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostThe potential first team that we can produce is easily mid table, injury has hampered that potential unfortunately. He signed 3 players who he isn't really playing and maybe should be: Mutch, Phillips and maybe ferdinand. He doesn't have enough prem standard players, the potential starting eleven aside, he has Rio, Barton, Henry, Hoilett, Kranjcar, Traore, Onuoha, Hill, Zamora, phillips, SWP (sort of). That is it. Of those, who are his signings? Rio, Mutch, Henry, phillips and Kranjcar. That's it. Those are his players outside the starting 11. Who is Actually good enough at this level? Of his players, Rio is handy, Mutch for sure, phillips can be, Kranjcar and henry can be helpful as well. From the others, I would say Onuoha and Zamora would usually be near the starting side. That is not big enough a squad to really challenge.
I agree, the away record is unwanted and maybe there, he has taken and accepted the criticism, but everyone in the league is afraid of coming to loftus road because of how redknapp has the team playing at home. We are not a top 6 team, we are not a top 10 team, we are a team looking to survive and we need those expectations. Simple. You can cloud your failings with attractive football in the way Martinez has done at everton and Wigan. The fact is that they are easy to read in general and that is why they are in danger. We don't need to play the most beautiful football, the last time we actually did that was in the Championship winning season and maybe the 80's.
You also make the point of saying that the away record is fine because our home form is good?.. I think you should maybe try telling that to the fans that fork out hundreds to watch us on the road.
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostYeah what a joke, calling man utd a top team, lol does he even watch football? Teams can play good football and be left behind. Look at Derby or wigan or Brighton even. Also, very few lies but hey, nothing like a good harry bashing to keep this forum going. Yea he buys ex spurs because he knows what he wants and he knows how to help this club. Guess what, we still always got players from spurs before harry. Remember a bloke called taarabt? what about Kyle Walker? Either of them seem relevant in this argument? Lets look at the ex spurs he has spunked untold millions on... Caulker is the future of englands defence. Sandro is still a top footballer and is still fairly young, Kranjcar is on a loan, only wages spent. Do remind me of the others i have forgotten to mention, I'm sure you can come up with many. Oh and that reminds me, who is one of the favourite players to leave the club on this forum? A spurs player called Townsend...
What about Tom Carroll, what's he doing now, Arry bought him in
Sandro @ 10 million, but always on the injury table, do you think that's shrewd business?
Rio a good signing? Caulker, while has the potential to do well( the future of England's defence is a bit far fetched however) but 8 million is too much. Why let Danny Simpson go? Why no points away from home, why no youth policy?
You are trying to defend the indefensible, he is a chancer and a terrible manager and needs to gone from our club immediately.From the Hills of Kerry
To the streets of Free Derry
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostNo better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
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Originally posted by West London is Rss View PostSorry mate but your reasoning for defending HR there is... That he cant get the team he wants out on the pitch cos of injuries? And that if we had them fit we would (in your words) easily be mid-table??... We don't have enough prem standard players?? I would argue Leicester or Burnley don't on paper either, yet they both seem to be performing better than us and have spent probably less than half of what we have spent... You don't seem to have any real substance to your argument Nasser. Injuries is not a reason or an excuse when we have been a lot better off than most teams in the league with injuries.
You also make the point of saying that the away record is fine because our home form is good?.. I think you should maybe try telling that to the fans that fork out hundreds to watch us on the road.
How about leicester you ask? They did have a good match against Man Utd at home, that 5 - 3 capitulation, their only other win at home? Villa last weekend and that was 1 - 0. But maybe it is much better away from home eh? Not really, the won 1 - 0 at stoke... sound familiar? they also managed to beat hull away from home though, 1 - 0 again... But hey, they are so much better than us aren't they.
For your second point, fans make the choice of travelling to support their teams, you are almost never favourite away from home unless you are top four. Yes, I agree, it is poor to have lost every away match but what matters in the end isn't where we get the points, but having the points themselves."What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane
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Originally posted by nasser95 View PostThe potential first team that we can produce is easily mid table, injury has hampered that potential unfortunately. He signed 3 players who he isn't really playing and maybe should be: Mutch, Phillips and maybe ferdinand. He doesn't have enough prem standard players, the potential starting eleven aside, he has Rio, Barton, Henry, Hoilett, Kranjcar, Traore, Onuoha, Hill, Zamora, phillips, SWP (sort of). That is it. Of those, who are his signings? Rio, Mutch, Henry, phillips and Kranjcar. That's it. Those are his players outside the starting 11. Who is Actually good enough at this level? Of his players, Rio is handy, Mutch for sure, phillips can be, Kranjcar and henry can be helpful as well. From the others, I would say Onuoha and Zamora would usually be near the starting side. That is not big enough a squad to really challenge.
I agree, the away record is unwanted and maybe there, he has taken and accepted the criticism, but everyone in the league is afraid of coming to loftus road because of how redknapp has the team playing at home. We are not a top 6 team, we are not a top 10 team, we are a team looking to survive and we need those expectations. Simple. You can cloud your failings with attractive football in the way Martinez has done at everton and Wigan. The fact is that they are easy to read in general and that is why they are in danger. We don't need to play the most beautiful football, the last time we actually did that was in the Championship winning season and maybe the 80's.
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