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  • nasser95
    Gold Seat
    • Dec 2012
    • 7216

    #46
    Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
    For one of the best paid managers in Europe that's pretty abysmal I agree.
    No better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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    • Rangersw12
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 2010

      #47
      Originally posted by QPRDave
      Calm down darling.....we don't want you to have a meltdown again
      Irony alert.............
      We Are The People.....

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      • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
        Gold Seat
        • Sep 2012
        • 8957

        #48
        Originally posted by nasser95
        No better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
        He was sacked Nasser.

        With the players at his disposal you'd of done a better job.

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        • Rangersw12
          Silver Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 2010

          #49
          Originally posted by nasser95
          No better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
          Loads of Spurs hated him though for the same reasons Rangers fans do
          We Are The People.....

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          • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
            Gold Seat
            • Sep 2012
            • 8957

            #50
            Originally posted by Rangersw12
            Loads of Spurs hated him though for the same reasons Rangers fans do
            Correct. They were delighted to see him go. He's full of shite.

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            • QPRDave
              The number 10
              • Mar 2009
              • 32065

              #51
              No not really......just using your own words back at you........short memory?.....

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              • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
                Gold Seat
                • Sep 2012
                • 8957

                #52
                Originally posted by Rangersw12
                Irony alert.............
                Originally posted by QPRDave
                No not really......just using your own words back at you........short memory?.....
                Make love not war

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                • West London is Rss
                  Gold Seat
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 6372

                  #53
                  Originally posted by nasser95
                  The potential first team that we can produce is easily mid table, injury has hampered that potential unfortunately. He signed 3 players who he isn't really playing and maybe should be: Mutch, Phillips and maybe ferdinand. He doesn't have enough prem standard players, the potential starting eleven aside, he has Rio, Barton, Henry, Hoilett, Kranjcar, Traore, Onuoha, Hill, Zamora, phillips, SWP (sort of). That is it. Of those, who are his signings? Rio, Mutch, Henry, phillips and Kranjcar. That's it. Those are his players outside the starting 11. Who is Actually good enough at this level? Of his players, Rio is handy, Mutch for sure, phillips can be, Kranjcar and henry can be helpful as well. From the others, I would say Onuoha and Zamora would usually be near the starting side. That is not big enough a squad to really challenge.
                  I agree, the away record is unwanted and maybe there, he has taken and accepted the criticism, but everyone in the league is afraid of coming to loftus road because of how redknapp has the team playing at home. We are not a top 6 team, we are not a top 10 team, we are a team looking to survive and we need those expectations. Simple. You can cloud your failings with attractive football in the way Martinez has done at everton and Wigan. The fact is that they are easy to read in general and that is why they are in danger. We don't need to play the most beautiful football, the last time we actually did that was in the Championship winning season and maybe the 80's.
                  Sorry mate but your reasoning for defending HR there is... That he cant get the team he wants out on the pitch cos of injuries? And that if we had them fit we would (in your words) easily be mid-table??... We don't have enough prem standard players?? I would argue Leicester or Burnley don't on paper either, yet they both seem to be performing better than us and have spent probably less than half of what we have spent... You don't seem to have any real substance to your argument Nasser. Injuries is not a reason or an excuse when we have been a lot better off than most teams in the league with injuries.

                  You also make the point of saying that the away record is fine because our home form is good?.. I think you should maybe try telling that to the fans that fork out hundreds to watch us on the road.

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                  • The Merry Ploughboy
                    Silver Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 3233

                    #54
                    Originally posted by nasser95
                    Yeah what a joke, calling man utd a top team, lol does he even watch football? Teams can play good football and be left behind. Look at Derby or wigan or Brighton even. Also, very few lies but hey, nothing like a good harry bashing to keep this forum going. Yea he buys ex spurs because he knows what he wants and he knows how to help this club. Guess what, we still always got players from spurs before harry. Remember a bloke called taarabt? what about Kyle Walker? Either of them seem relevant in this argument? Lets look at the ex spurs he has spunked untold millions on... Caulker is the future of englands defence. Sandro is still a top footballer and is still fairly young, Kranjcar is on a loan, only wages spent. Do remind me of the others i have forgotten to mention, I'm sure you can come up with many. Oh and that reminds me, who is one of the favourite players to leave the club on this forum? A spurs player called Townsend...
                    Walker and Townsend great loans, nothing to do with Droopy
                    What about Tom Carroll, what's he doing now, Arry bought him in
                    Sandro @ 10 million, but always on the injury table, do you think that's shrewd business?
                    Rio a good signing? Caulker, while has the potential to do well( the future of England's defence is a bit far fetched however) but 8 million is too much. Why let Danny Simpson go? Why no points away from home, why no youth policy?
                    You are trying to defend the indefensible, he is a chancer and a terrible manager and needs to gone from our club immediately.
                    From the Hills of Kerry
                    To the streets of Free Derry

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                    • West London is Rss
                      Gold Seat
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 6372

                      #55
                      Originally posted by nasser95
                      No better paid than most of the premier league managers or top paid manager in europe, still has a pretty good record I would say in general, No one at spurs called him a failure when he left given where they started.
                      Your a 1 man band Nasser, which should tell you something.. give it up.

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                      • QPRDave
                        The number 10
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 32065

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
                        Make love not war
                        sorry jim...caught you in the crossfire.....

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                        • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
                          Gold Seat
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 8957

                          #57
                          Originally posted by QPRDave
                          sorry jim...caught you in the crossfire.....
                          No need for apologies mate I'm the worst on here for rowing. Two good posters. Drop the beef fam

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                          • nasser95
                            Gold Seat
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 7216

                            #58
                            Originally posted by West London is Rss
                            Sorry mate but your reasoning for defending HR there is... That he cant get the team he wants out on the pitch cos of injuries? And that if we had them fit we would (in your words) easily be mid-table??... We don't have enough prem standard players?? I would argue Leicester or Burnley don't on paper either, yet they both seem to be performing better than us and have spent probably less than half of what we have spent... You don't seem to have any real substance to your argument Nasser. Injuries is not a reason or an excuse when we have been a lot better off than most teams in the league with injuries.

                            You also make the point of saying that the away record is fine because our home form is good?.. I think you should maybe try telling that to the fans that fork out hundreds to watch us on the road.
                            Yea leicester who are below us and have been most of the season, only getting some wins in their last few matches, and Burnley who have done the same and haven't scored more than one goal at home this season before last weekend are playing better football than us. Lets look deeper shall we? Burnley have only 1 away win this season, and only 3 home wins two of which were 1 - 0. Their only away win was a 2 - 1 at stoke. But yea, they are certainly so much better than us arent they.
                            How about leicester you ask? They did have a good match against Man Utd at home, that 5 - 3 capitulation, their only other win at home? Villa last weekend and that was 1 - 0. But maybe it is much better away from home eh? Not really, the won 1 - 0 at stoke... sound familiar? they also managed to beat hull away from home though, 1 - 0 again... But hey, they are so much better than us aren't they.
                            For your second point, fans make the choice of travelling to support their teams, you are almost never favourite away from home unless you are top four. Yes, I agree, it is poor to have lost every away match but what matters in the end isn't where we get the points, but having the points themselves.
                            "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                            • MattyRangers
                              Slimmer of The Year
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 24914

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
                              Talking is all he's good at. He's made a very lucrative career out if it.

                              Any danger of managing & coaching a very expensive football team to a few wins?
                              You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                              • Hove Ranger
                                Silver Seat
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 4441

                                #60
                                Originally posted by nasser95
                                The potential first team that we can produce is easily mid table, injury has hampered that potential unfortunately. He signed 3 players who he isn't really playing and maybe should be: Mutch, Phillips and maybe ferdinand. He doesn't have enough prem standard players, the potential starting eleven aside, he has Rio, Barton, Henry, Hoilett, Kranjcar, Traore, Onuoha, Hill, Zamora, phillips, SWP (sort of). That is it. Of those, who are his signings? Rio, Mutch, Henry, phillips and Kranjcar. That's it. Those are his players outside the starting 11. Who is Actually good enough at this level? Of his players, Rio is handy, Mutch for sure, phillips can be, Kranjcar and henry can be helpful as well. From the others, I would say Onuoha and Zamora would usually be near the starting side. That is not big enough a squad to really challenge.
                                I agree, the away record is unwanted and maybe there, he has taken and accepted the criticism, but everyone in the league is afraid of coming to loftus road because of how redknapp has the team playing at home. We are not a top 6 team, we are not a top 10 team, we are a team looking to survive and we need those expectations. Simple. You can cloud your failings with attractive football in the way Martinez has done at everton and Wigan. The fact is that they are easy to read in general and that is why they are in danger. We don't need to play the most beautiful football, the last time we actually did that was in the Championship winning season and maybe the 80's.
                                Cannot believe your main argument is based on the potential of our team on paper, which in being unquantifiable cannot be a basis for whether HR stays or goes!! Surely every manager would argue their team would finish mid table if luck had gone their way? (ie injuries, suspensions, late goals etc.)

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