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  • dogsrrs
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2013
    • 6671

    #31
    Originally posted by West London is Rss
    Don't think we need any players in this month. Potentially a centre half on loan or something from the Championship.
    Don't be fed the bullsh1t of needing players that HR gives... Burnley have a far lesser squad than us and look at them. We have wingers.. Phillips and Hoilett just need fvcking coaching! Their young players, they don't need neglecting.

    We shouldn't be wanting to shove young players out the door so quickly.

    Oh yes we do Hoilet cant be coached how many games has he played career wise 188 according to wikki , Phillips is worth keeping but loaned out for the rest of the season with a recall clause ideally to a championship club needs to learn to react quicker to a situation and the Premier is not the place to learn
    Last edited by dogsrrs; 13-01-2015, 04:50 PM.

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    • QPRDave
      The number 10
      • Mar 2009
      • 32079

      #32
      Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
      If we dont get anyone nobody will be able to moan about deadline day panic buys and range interviews. Small blessing.
      Originally posted by Nick
      Couldnt care less if its a dead line day signing or not but we NEED a winger no matter what, now surely Harry can see that!!!
      And there in 2 posts sums this site up and exactly what stainrod posted about in his thread. I actually agree with both btw

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      • Kirill
        W12 Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 19359

        #33
        Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod
        To be fair i did go mad when they sh it all over NW so quickly after what he did for us. I just havent found it the time to coat them off about this manager until (imo) the make or break game saturday. You smash all time records of cr apness then you have to go. Its just basic common sense.
        Yeah but what if we were in the relegation zone like we are now, same number of points and goal difference, but we did have a few away points and correspondingly a few less home points, would you not want HR gone in that case?
        Banning people is no longer my hobby,
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        • Kevin Mcleod
          Referee
          • Aug 2013
          • 17322

          #34
          Originally posted by Kirill
          Yeah but what if we were in the relegation zone like we are now, same number of points and goal difference, but we did have a few away points and correspondingly a few less home points, would you not want HR gone in that case?
          No i wouldnt to be honest no.

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          • West London is Rss
            Gold Seat
            • Jun 2013
            • 6372

            #35
            Originally posted by dogsrrs
            Oh yes we do Hoilet cant be coached how many games has he played career wise 188 according to wikki , Phillips is worth keeping but loaned out for the rest of the season with a recall clause ideally to a championship club needs to learn to react quicker to a situation and the Premier is not the place to learn
            OK so boot Hoilett out at 23 years of age because he has played 188 games and cant be coached? You make no sense man!
            Hoilett was superb at Blackburn but hasn't been able to re-kindle that form.. You don't just boot a young talented player like Hoilett out of the door.
            He needs games, he needs a coach who is also gaffer. He needs trust, he needs confidence.. All wingers need confidence. Without confidence as a winger, it is one of the hardest positions. His not stupid.. He knows how much stick he has been getting from Rangers fans in the last few months. It doesn't help his confidence.

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            • dogsrrs
              Gold Seat
              • Mar 2013
              • 6671

              #36
              [QUOTE=West London is Rss;1369609]OK so boot Hoilett out at 23 years of age because he has played 188 games and cant be coached? You make no sense man!
              Hoilett was superb at Blackburn but hasn't been able to re-kindle that form.. You don't just boot a young talented player like Hoilett out of the door.
              He needs games, he needs a coach who is also gaffer. He needs trust, he needs confidence.. All wingers need confidence. Without confidence as a winger, it is one of the hardest positions. His not stupid.. He knows how much stick he has been getting from Rangers fans in the last few months. It doesn't help his confidence.[/QU

              Not trying to be a smart arrrs but how do you know he was superb at Blackburn ?any player can be good if you see snippets on match of the day you don't often see dud crosses miss passes , he's winger that cant cross that's no use to us his final ball is crap , yes he's young and can run with the ball but we need more than that , against Swansea he couldn't take the ball to the corner post without losing it that could have saved us 2 points , his game is just not reliable enough to be a premier league player
              Last edited by dogsrrs; 13-01-2015, 06:32 PM.

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              • nasser95
                Gold Seat
                • Dec 2012
                • 7216

                #37
                [QUOTE=dogsrrs;1369647]
                Originally posted by West London is Rss
                OK so boot Hoilett out at 23 years of age because he has played 188 games and cant be coached? You make no sense man!
                Hoilett was superb at Blackburn but hasn't been able to re-kindle that form.. You don't just boot a young talented player like Hoilett out of the door.
                He needs games, he needs a coach who is also gaffer. He needs trust, he needs confidence.. All wingers need confidence. Without confidence as a winger, it is one of the hardest positions. His not stupid.. He knows how much stick he has been getting from Rangers fans in the last few months. It doesn't help his confidence.[/QU

                Not trying to be a smart arrrs but how do you know he was superb at Blackburn ?any player can be good if you see snippets on match of the day you don't often see dud crosses miss passes , he's winger that cant cross that's no use to us his final ball is crap , yes he's young and can run with the but we need more than that , against Swansea he couldn't take the ball to the corner post without losing it that could have saved us 2 points , his game is just not reliable enough to be a premier league player
                He was superb, he was very very talented and was their main goalscoring threat for a long time alongside Pedersen. That is why Arsenal wanted him. I respect him for choosing us over them due to the potential of more first team football and unfortunately, he hasn't performed. I hate on him but I can still see that player there. The young starlet who would terrorise the opposition but maybe he needs that forced out and into his game. He needs to be that fear monger who attacked his full back with pure pace and agility and knew how to take them on and more importantly get past them. My
                "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                • dogsrrs
                  Gold Seat
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 6671

                  #38
                  [QUOTE=nasser95;1369654][QUOTE=dogsrrs;1369647]

                  He was superb, he was very very talented and was their main goalscoring threat for a long time alongside Pedersen. That is why Arsenal wanted him. I respect him for choosing us over them due to the potential of more first team football and unfortunately, he hasn't performed. I hate on him but I can still see that player there. The young starlet who would terrorise the opposition but maybe he needs that forced out and into his game. He needs to be that fear monger who attacked his full back with pure pace and agility and knew how to take them on and more importantly

                  Ok your view but answer this have we got the time to wait for him to possibly come good imo no , we need every place in the squad taken by a reliable player

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                  • nasser95
                    Gold Seat
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 7216

                    #39
                    [QUOTE=dogsrrs;1369663][QUOTE=nasser95;1369654]
                    Originally posted by dogsrrs

                    He was superb, he was very very talented and was their main goalscoring threat for a long time alongside Pedersen. That is why Arsenal wanted him. I respect him for choosing us over them due to the potential of more first team football and unfortunately, he hasn't performed. I hate on him but I can still see that player there. The young starlet who would terrorise the opposition but maybe he needs that forced out and into his game. He needs to be that fear monger who attacked his full back with pure pace and agility and knew how to take them on and more importantly

                    Ok your view but answer this have we got the time to wait for him to possibly come good imo no , we need every place in the squad taken by a reliable player
                    I never did say we should rely on him exclusively and now we could get this Mpoku guy, we also have taarabt and Zarate who can play wide left. Just take out Ehmer and SWP and we have a good looking squad there.
                    "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                    • Martinmalta
                      Silver Seat
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 2511

                      #40
                      Doesn't bother you that most of the players that joins the R's somewhat loose their flair and confidence? I am sure that Hoilett is a good player, if ever someone at the club knows how to motivate him and help him regain his confidence. There is something seriously wrong at this club. The fact that the money people invested in the club, made more damage then good. Because of the money, the wrong personnel joined the club without any form of structure and study. Money is the most important factor. The club can go to hell!

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                      • Shania
                        C Club
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 23696

                        #41
                        Didnīt Hoilett play in a bit more free role while with Blackburn?
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                        • nasser95
                          Gold Seat
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 7216

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Shania
                          Didnīt Hoilett play in a bit more free role while with Blackburn?
                          I think he was sort of the Adel (Championship season) of their side wasn't he? Sort of officially just behind the striker but moved all over the place.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • Shania
                            C Club
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 23696

                            #43
                            I think that was the case, Nasser 95. Would have liked him to do the same here. Our play is still far too stationary up front. No Wonder many of our passes fail.
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                            • nasser95
                              Gold Seat
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 7216

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Shania
                              I think that was the case, Nasser 95. Would have liked him to do the same here. Our play is still far too stationary up front. No Wonder many of our passes fail.
                              If i'm not mistaken, didn't we play him there in pre season? I thought he actually looked good there.
                              "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                              • Kevin Mcleod
                                Referee
                                • Aug 2013
                                • 17322

                                #45
                                you know things are really really really bad when people are starting to make excuses for toilett. Blokes sh ite. When you think about it, how can any football team in the top flight of english football expect to stay up when they have toilett, traore and hill playing in it. (no disrespect to clint as a man)

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