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I agree. Thing is though, a team just intent on 'surviving' in the Premiership, isn't going to have people beating a path to our door. A change of direction in terms of ambitions will also be key.Originally posted by Greg1882 View PostMaybe for the club we are now but Southampton didn't always sell out the dell at what 15000 ? Times change mate and we better start changing with them or we will get left behind . Fulham went from 4000 crowds to mid twenties on a regular basis . We've got a much bigger fan base than them , so long as it's marketed well and competitively priced with a stable premier league season every year I think we might surprise a few on here . Just my opinion
A winning team collecting trophies on a regular basis, can fill the biggest of stadiums.
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Tell you what Kev, I've worked on a number of single story extensions & garages where the calculations have been done & footings poured for a double story to be added to if they choose to in the future.Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostYou sound like you know your way around a building site mate. Have you ever heard a geezer with untold dough
say when hes having a drum built. "make it four beds, but put the footings down for a fith just in case'.
Thinking about it further we've done 2 loft conversions too where we put the steels in for dormers & they couldn't afford it at the time so they just had a 'velux' job done."Steve, do you think 25k is a good option when there are indications that within four years, new stadiums on average have increased attendances of 60%?
For us that would mean around 29k."
QPR Richard 16-12-2013 10.08pm
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New stadium? At last I say, its years and years overdue, and we've been plumetting down the pecking order because of it.
Ironically, the same fans who want us to stay a small club still think our chief rivals are Chelsea, like back in the '70s.
Its laughable and absurd, absurdly laughable, and laughably absurd.
News. They've moved on, and in the main don't even recognise us as rivals anymore (unless they're in their late 50s). But if the clever marketing men can fill a 40k stadium full of Rangers in the future, maybe we get back some of the lost ground. Also, the fan who decided to start supporting QPR yesterday is just as important as the fan for 50 years imo. Respect.
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Yeah mate, course if moneys an issue. It isnt with our firm though, so just get it done in one go,Originally posted by NW_Hoopz View PostTell you what Kev, I've worked on a number of single story extensions & garages where the calculations have been done & footings poured for a double story to be added to if they choose to in the future.
Thinking about it further we've done 2 loft conversions too where we put the steels in for dormers & they couldn't afford it at the time so they just had a 'velux' job done.
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See where you are coming from regarding the new stadium. Kids get a bye but fans that supported Man Utd/Liverpool/Spurs etc till they moved into the "New Queens Park" and were converted by the clever marketing men to wave a flag at the new stadium will never be a proper QPR fan. These marketing men are going to need to manufacture and convert new locals and existing fans of other teams to fill this stadium. Also i am a bit worried about our identity as i see more more Tarquin like supporters and tourists down the rangers and them waving them foam hands and flags in the new stadium may well be too much for me.Originally posted by Gerryhatrick View PostAlso, the fan who decided to start supporting QPR yesterday is just as important as the fan for 50 years imo. Respect.
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Exactly said this before but this is what Arsenal have done. The super structure/foundations is for a capacity of 100k if they wanted to expandOriginally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostYou sound like you know your way around a building site mate. Have you ever heard a geezer with untold dough say when hes having a drum built. "make it four beds, but put the footings down for a fith just in case'.
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I would say this is where we the proper fans have to take a lead and ensure that those that perhaps attend sporadically or who are new (lets say from new houses) are taken by the atmosphere etc of the die hards so they buy in too QPR and start attending regularlyOriginally posted by vespa View PostAnd like the 6000 odd real Fulham fans ,we will be surrounded by plastics and tourists ,.
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I'll just scowl at the flag and foam hand toting ****ersOriginally posted by West Acton View PostI would say this is where we the proper fans have to take a lead and ensure that those that perhaps attend sporadically or who are new (lets say from new houses) are taken by the atmosphere etc of the die hards so they buy in too QPR and start attending regularly
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the bloke that owns car giant says he has been offered a lot more money from other parties ,so who will he sell too ,housing developments or a football stadium ,which will bring the price of property down straight away ,if the car giant bloke is to be believed we should start looking elsewhereFootball played the Charlie Ferris way
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All negotiation tactics as far as I can see.Originally posted by superhoop67 View Postthe bloke that owns car giant says he has been offered a lot more money from other parties ,so who will he sell too ,housing developments or a football stadium ,which will bring the price of property down straight away ,if the car giant bloke is to be believed we should start looking elsewhere
He's hanging on for the best deal he can get, and I don't blame him. When do we ever underpay for anything?
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Not a lot of places left for TF and pals to execute their longterm plan. Unigate and BBC are gone. To be honest looking at the track record since when they took over 3 years ago i cant see them getting this right and it all coming together. Turning a small club into a big club is no easy thing as TF has found out already and wheres the training ground and academy ? that is more important to us as a club..all gone very quiet on that. They havent even got the land at OOC yet they are on the PR wagon bigging up London's new entertainment complex.Originally posted by superhoop67 View Postthe bloke that owns car giant says he has been offered a lot more money from other parties ,so who will he sell too ,housing developments or a football stadium ,which will bring the price of property down straight away ,if the car giant bloke is to be believed we should start looking elsewhere
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The job I'm on now has asked us to oversize the Mains, Boiler, Clyinder etc to accommodate any future extensions, and also asked us to leave tees into heating to allow for the extra rads etc when the time comesOriginally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostYou sound like you know your way around a building site mate. Have you ever heard a geezer with untold dough say when hes having a drum built. "make it four beds, but put the footings down for a fith just in case'.
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just bought a pair of strides 2 sizes to big for me ,for when i get back from my hols ,they will be a nice comfy fitOriginally posted by qblockoompah View PostThe job I'm on now has asked us to oversize the Mains, Boiler, Clyinder etc to accommodate any future extensions, and also asked us to leave tees into heating to allow for the extra rads etc when the time comesFootball played the Charlie Ferris way
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