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  • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
    Gold Seat
    • Sep 2012
    • 8957

    #91
    Originally posted by QPR Richard
    So, as a QPR fan, you waited a week before you said anything?
    And what if he did? Big concern to you is it?

    Stop digging the fella out. He's said what he's said. If you don't believe him fine.

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    • QPR Richard
      Gold Seat
      • Sep 2011
      • 6489

      #92
      Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
      And what if he did? Big concern to you is it?

      Stop digging the fella out. He's said what he's said. If you don't believe him fine.
      I'm sure he can answer for himself without you poking your nose in....
      Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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      • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
        Gold Seat
        • Sep 2012
        • 8957

        #93
        Well I did.

        Deal with it.

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        • QPR Richard
          Gold Seat
          • Sep 2011
          • 6489

          #94
          Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
          Well I did.

          Deal with it.
          Sorry Mr Hardman keyboard warrior.
          Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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          • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
            Gold Seat
            • Sep 2012
            • 8957

            #95
            Originally posted by QPR Richard
            Sorry Mr Hardman keyboard warrior.
            No problem grass.

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            • Wolfy
              Silver Seat
              • Jun 2012
              • 1229

              #96
              Don't over pay for a player well past his best. People are judging him on his prime but he is well on the decline and could be another Park. Tony stick your nose in so we do not make silly signings for too much money. a pay to play deal should be struck at a reasonable amount.

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              • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
                Gold Seat
                • Sep 2012
                • 8957

                #97
                Originally posted by Wolfy
                Don't over pay for a player well past his best. People are judging him on his prime but he is well on the decline and could be another Park. Tony stick your nose in so we do not make silly signings for too much money. a pay to play deal should be struck at a reasonable amount.
                Players like that won't entertain deals like that I'm afraid.

                If the manager wants him he should be backed. Free transfer & still got quality. Will be the best defender at our club. Fact. Also before anyone says Onouha 80% of you were hammering him early season.

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                • West Acton
                  CCG
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 21475

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit
                  If the manager wants him he should be backed. Free transfer & still got quality. Will be the best defender at our club. Fact. Also before anyone says Onouha 80% of you were hammering him early season.
                  You don't get a dog and bark for it. Yes the board should have some input but if you don't trust the managers signings get a new manager who you do trust its that simple

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                  • Jimmy Floyd Rabbit
                    Gold Seat
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 8957

                    #99
                    Originally posted by West Acton
                    You don't get a dog and bark for it. Yes the board should have some input but if you don't trust the managers signings get a new manager who you do trust its that simple
                    Exactly.

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                    • Kevin Mcleod
                      Referee
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 17322

                      #100
                      Originally posted by West Acton
                      You don't get a dog and bark for it. Yes the board should have some input but if you don't trust the managers signings get a new manager who you do trust its that simple
                      Harry out!

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                      • QPR Richard
                        Gold Seat
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 6489

                        #101
                        Originally posted by West Acton
                        You don't get a dog and bark for it. Yes the board should have some input but if you don't trust the managers signings get a new manager who you do trust its that simple
                        Have to disagree with you mate. Yes, managers should be able to choose the players, but it needs to be done within the financial framework of what the club can afford. There's those who say chairmen shouldn't get involved with team affairs, but should managers get involved with the financial affairs of clubs?

                        I would guess the way it works is that the manager gives the board a list of targets, and the board says yay or nay dependent on the costs.

                        In the case of Rio, the board may have looked at the cost of the contract and his injury record and decided he's not good value for the money he wants. It's not an assessment of the player's abilities, but an assessment of value for money.

                        Managers aren't accountants and shouldn't be given Carte Blanche to spend whatever they like. There has to be control of the finances or the club could be ruined.

                        Most managers, given a blank cheque, would spend spend spend.
                        Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                        • West Acton
                          CCG
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 21475

                          #102
                          Agree to an extent rich yes manager gives the name but for me they should not veto it because they think player is to old etc rather as you say they should make offer that fits their financial view of the player. Manager names players board decides there worth

                          Rumours are that board are saying he's too old and questioning ability which for me is outside their remit. Offer him deal if he don't accept then they have done their job

                          For the record I think he will sign and papers are stirring

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                          • QPR Richard
                            Gold Seat
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 6489

                            #103
                            Let's suppose Rio wants a two year contract at 80k a week. Would that be acceptable or would the board be right to veto this? Age would surely be a factor as would his injury record. I don't think the board would question his footballing ability, just his ability to play 25-30 games for a year or two. Bear in mind the fact he's averaged 21 prem games a season for the last two seasons. I'm sure the board have considered this too.

                            I just feel the risk is too high and there's probably fitter and younger alternatives.
                            Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                            • West Acton
                              CCG
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 21475

                              #104
                              You keep mentioning his injury record but where is the evidence of this??

                              They should offer a deal which suits the club he then takes it or leaves it. Other then financing the deal and saying what they can and cannot afford and what they think rio or any other player is worth to us they should not get involved in my book. A players injury record is the concern of the manager, medical and coaching staff that's why we employed them

                              If the deal is too expensive then by all means step away from it but that should have nothing to do with injuries etc abd should be cost based alone

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                              • West Acton
                                CCG
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 21475

                                #105
                                Also fitter and younger don't mean no risk look at giggs record as a youngster and Walcott, gerrard, Faurlin,Wiltshire, Richards, hoillett, dyer, Anderton, Jenas

                                All players who were ruined by injuries in teens up until mid 20s

                                Players get injured. Young players suffer injuries old players suffer injuries some players are lucky and go a whole career with no injuries. Every player of any age is one tackle away from an injury or muscle pull it's life.

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