those moaning about 40k...

[W12_Ranger]

Sorry sunshine, but I base a lot of my stuff on fact. If you don't like it, tough.

By the way, have you ever earned money from any government projects, or likely to over the next few years? Would be hypocritical if you have or will.

Hypocritical how? I hope all these projects go ahead as I will be pulling a lot if money but I sure as hell don't put all my eggs in one basket.

Hypocritical.......you really are a beaut dicky boy !

Googling something on the Internet , doing a bit of reading around on some statistics doesn't qualify for you to claim you always post facts. You seem to spend a lot of your time fantasising about the future if you ask me rather than the here and now.

I'm quite happy to be a sceptic until I see more information coming out about the club with regards to any stadium move. Actions speak louder than words, I will keep my eyes open for the latest copies of NCE and pass on any facts I hear to you.

[vblockranger]

Let's imagine this scenario. The current board clears any debt, packs up and sells the club.

The new owners don't have any real investment money but are considered competent. We then call off the move to the new stadium and Chelsea step in and build a 60k stadium there. Fulham expand their ground and the new Brentford stadium opens.

In the next 10-20 years, what division would we likely be playing in regularly? Would we be financially stable? What size crowds would we get?

This is a scenario based on some fans getting their wish by getting rid of TF and staying at LR.

Is that what happens in Richardworld? did you dream it? No wonder you got high blood pressure.

[QPR Richard]

Hypocritical how? I hope all these projects go ahead as I will be pulling a lot if money but I sure as hell don't put all my eggs in one basket.

Hypocritical.......you really are a beaut dicky boy !

Googling something on the Internet , doing a bit of reading around on some statistics doesn't qualify for you to claim you always post facts. You seem to spend a lot of your time fantasising about the future if you ask me rather than the here and now.

I'm quite happy to be a sceptic until I see more information coming out about the club with regards to any stadium move. Actions speak louder than words, I will keep my eyes open for the latest copies of NCE and pass on any facts I hear to you.

But Victor, didn't you say:

I'm sure as hell not going to put my faith in a development backed by the government.

Happy to take the money though. Either you're a hypocrite or completely lack morals.

[QPR Richard]

Is that what happens in Richardworld? did you dream it? No wonder you got high blood pressure.

Oh look, W12's nodding dog has arrived.

Had my blood pressure checked last week. It's perfectly normal. But thank you for enquiring after my well-being....

[vblockranger]

Oh look, W12's nodding dog has arrived.

Had my blood pressure checked last week. It's perfectly normal. But thank you for enquiring after my well-being....

As opposed to Fernandes nodding dog that you seem to be...

[W12_Ranger]

But Victor, didn't you say:

I'm sure as hell not going to put my faith in a development backed by the government.

Happy to take the money though. Either you're a hypocrite or completely lack morals.

Off course I'm happy to take the money what sort of daft statement is that to make. As for having no morals ???? What planet are you on ... You really are losing the plot Dicky.

Crossrail took 15 years to get the go ahead due to governments taking it off the agenda costing the taxpayer and extra £15 billion from its original costs. This is not a question of hypocrisy or lacking morals you weapon, it's a case of understanding major projects can have can have the goalposts moved depending on political agenda.

I would rather see how this will unravel as opposed to getting all excited like a big kid over something that may never materialise

[QPR Richard]

Well I hope you're not involved in building the new stadium. Bl00dy thing'll probably fall down in a week....

[jfish]

Well I hope you're not involved in building the new stadium. Bl00dy thing'll probably fall down in a week....

Why don't you both accept that one of you is excited and one of you isn't.

[QPRDave]

Chelsea would never build a stadium there....

Oh and no one is saying get rid of Fernandes or never build a stadium there, it's just some of us refuse to swallow every thing spouted by the board.

Every post of yours seems to be based on ifs and buts , you present facts about other clubs which don't really hold relevance to our own. You bang on about catchment areas which have always been there.

Your big vision isn't shared by everyone , it's just the way it is.

Here's another scenario, we continue to ply our trade at LR and become established in the PL , Fulham get relegated and lose half their support, Chelsea continue to be a bunch of ***** playing at Stamford bridge winning trophies and Brentford play in a ground 3 times to big for them.

Meanwhile HS2 gets shelved , Crossrail 2 is put in hold , Fernandes sells up to Mittal for less than what he paid for us due to cash flow problems.

See what i mean .... All ifs and buts !!!!

Yes we need a new ground but I'm sure as hell not going to put my faith in a development backed by the government...this whole project is not so clear cut and any potential infrastructure construction delays will influence programme