Tom Carroll

[DeepcutHoop]

To be fair to Carroll, whether the passes were back, forward or sideways, it's about keeping possession and someone finding the killer ball at some point. It forces other teams to chase the ball around the pitch while we control the game.

We used to be a great passing team and I'm happy for us to be so again.

As long as I can remember at QPR, the crowd gets pissed off if we play long balls, and pissed off if we pass the ball sideways or backwards more than a couple of times.

We appear to have the hankering to watch us play complete football, but not the patience.

[TW7R]

I'm flabbergasted the boy was stunning today and will only get better, was willing to receive the ball in every position on the pitch helping the defence by giving them an out instead of going long.
He tracked players and made positions to have a crack on goal.
He did give the ball away a bit but probably received the ball more than any other so probably highlight more.
The boy is class and will play for England one day

Stunning? Seriously? Did you have a drink before the game?

Sorry mate, you obviously rate the guy, as do many others, but yesterday he was poor. If boro had decent strikers we could have drawn yesterday because of his sloppy passing.

I'm struggling to see where this future England player is from what I've seen. Yes he comes with a good rep and a lot of ex pros have seen him progressing are talking him up but based on what I've seen so far I've been un impressed.

I've seen many performances over the years watching Rangers, many of which have had performances from individuals that I would class as stunning. Yesterday's performance from your man was anything but.

[winalotto]

Only negative today for me , his pass completion must have been 30%.

A few glimpses of class but my word the amount of times he gave the ball away in dangerous areas was shocking

Yeah its still a learning curve for tom, you can see the game is to quick for him sometimes, that extra touch and a players on him or that pass has been cut out because that gap has been closed quicker than he is used to. Im afraid there's no magic wand for this , its simply game time, he will get used to the speed of the championship, his thought proses will become quicker as he plays more, i was sitting near a fan who wanted him dragged off after 10 mins! You simply have to give these youngsters a chance you cant destroy them after 10 mins of a game, and as you say there was glimpses of the player he will become , him Barton and Nico interchanging passes was something special in the second half, really thought we looked pure class yesterday.

[THE CAT]

I don't like having a pop but really don't see what he adds. He just picks the ball up off the centre halves plays a sideways pass then instead of going forward comes back deep to get the ball off the person he passed it to.

In any of the games he has played I cannot remember him creating anything like a chance or even a dangerous situation(apart from to ourselves!), Would rather have Henry sitting back there who is more solid and not so much of a liability.

Carroll should be sub IMO.

[Kevin Mcleod]

same.

[vblockranger]

I don't like having a pop but really don't see what he adds. He just picks the ball up off the centre halves plays a sideways pass then instead of going forward comes back deep to get the ball off the person he passed it to.

In any of the games he has played I cannot remember him creating anything like a chance or even a dangerous situation(apart from to ourselves!), Would rather have Henry sitting back there who is more solid and not so much of a liability.

Carroll should be sub IMO.

[W12_Ranger]

Stunning? Seriously? Did you have a drink before the game?

Sorry mate, you obviously rate the guy, as do many others, but yesterday he was poor. If boro had decent strikers we could have drawn yesterday because of his sloppy passing.

I'm struggling to see where this future England player is from what I've seen. Yes he comes with a good rep and a lot of ex pros have seen him progressing are talking him up but based on what I've seen so far I've been un impressed.

I've seen many performances over the years watching Rangers, many of which have had performances from individuals that I would class as stunning. Yesterday's performance from your man was anything but.

There are some football fans who like to think like these pundits , drop cliche after cliche and think they are saying the right things.

For Moon Safari to state Carroll will play for England is ridiculous based on what we've seen, Carroll will do well to be playing in the Championship next season.

Ridiculous statement

[QPR Richard]

There are some football fans who like to think like these pundits , drop cliche after cliche and think they are saying the right things.

For Moon Safari to state Carroll will play for England is ridiculous based on what we've seen, Carroll will do well to be playing in the Championship next season.

Ridiculous statement

You're a fine one to talk about ridiculous statements after claiming Carroll's pass completion rate must have been 30% when it was 86%. Not quite sure what you saw but it wasn't that.

In any case, HR thinks he's ok and that'll do for me. The lad needs some game time and I'm sure will improve.

[SammyKojoe]

The lad clearly has ability and on the odd occasion he shows quick feet or clever pass. But the OP is correct regarding him giving the ball away in dangerous areas at least 3 times Saturday. Left us 2 on 2 and a better team than Boro would have punished us. Had those mistakes led to goals people would be sending him back to Tottenham.

Not sure how anyone who did not go to the game and see those errors can defend the lad on that issue either.

[superhoop67]

The lad clearly has ability and on the odd occasion he shows quick feet or clever pass. But the OP is correct regarding him giving the ball away in dangerous areas at least 3 times Saturday. Left us 2 on 2 and a better team than Boro would have punished us. Had those mistakes led to goals people would be sending him back to Tottenham.

Not sure how anyone who did not go to the game and see those errors can defend the lad on that issue either.

but Richard says he had a pass rate of 86% [80% was back to the GK] so he is a future superstar

[Busheyboy]

obviously has some ability but let's not forget he's young, inexperienced and raw and will improve
we haven't signed Iniesta or Xavi, he's a kid learning and some of the criticism is harsh
give him a chance and he'll prove to be a good player for us
that said, some of the compliments are also misplaced (like a few of his passes)

[vblockranger]

but Richard says he had a pass rate of 86% [80% was back to the GK] so he is a future superstar

Think Richard plays too much Football Manager and relies to heavily on stats...young lad we have loaned on the premise we give him game time that he wouldnt get at Spurs.

[Shepherds Mush]

I'm sure he will improve but he did worry me giving the ball away so often

[QPR Richard]

Think Richard plays too much Football Manager and relies to heavily on stats...young lad we have loaned on the premise we give him game time that he wouldnt get at Spurs.

No, Richard does NOT play football manager or any other types of those games. Someone put a link up the other day showing Carroll's pass completion rate which was vastly different from your boyfriend's.

Talking of your boyfriend, isn't it about time you took your tongue out of W12's ring and started saying something original instead of hanging on every word he writes?

Just a thought......

[QPR Richard]

but Richard says he had a pass rate of 86% [80% was back to the GK] so he is a future superstar

So you know 80% was back to Green for sure then? Where did you get that from or are you spouting nonsense?

For the record, I'm neither attacking nor defending Carroll, but I'm guessing some of you are youngsters who don't remember a certain Raymond Wilkins who had a reputation for backwards and sidewards passing.