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  • superhoop67
    Silver Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 3782

    #31
    Originally posted by Felt
    Yeah but he sounds like an idiot because he makes out like their problems were because they're French African. Zidane, Henry, Makalele, Vieira and Desailly were all alright weren't they?
    but none of the were playing for us
    Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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    • Felt
      Silver Seat
      • Aug 2011
      • 1600

      #32
      That's not racist and it's not xenophobic. Xenophobia is defined as an irrational fear, but the immigration policies of this country are mad. Doesn't have anything to do with French African footballers though!

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      • Johnnykc
        Silver Seat
        • Mar 2012
        • 2146

        #33
        Originally posted by W12_Ranger
        I care I must admit, living and working London I come across all different people. I know who I would employ I know who I wouldn't. I don't see why building a team is any different in football than any other professional work place. The divide in the dressing room was clear the last two seasons. When building a team cultural differences and work ethics should always be considered. Many will tip toe around political correctness but I'm not bothered we've the likes of Diakite , Mbia and Traore costing the club well in excess of £100k a week still here and I want rid of the lot them, they are in my book the reason we went down without a whimper last season.
        Agreed.....but to blame it on one particular ethnic group is just plain f***ing stupid...

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        • lymehoop
          Gold Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 7380

          #34
          Originally posted by vblockranger
          Xenophobia ia a FEAR of that which is perceived to be foreign ...i'm not afraid just angry. Too many immigrants in London whether they are asian or eastern Europeans. If i am labelled racist or a Xenophobe for not wanting so many here and wishing it was more like the England of 30 or 40 years ago then so be it.
          if you look at the millions, yes millions, that have left London, you are not alone in that view
          I must away now, I can no longer tarry
          This morning's tempest I have to cross
          I must be guided without a stumble
          Into the arms I love the most

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          • superhoop67
            Silver Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 3782

            #35
            Originally posted by Johnnykc
            Agreed.....but to blame it on one particular ethnic group is just plain f***ing stupid...
            well it doesn't seem to be there now
            Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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            • theblackmafia.
              Silver Seat
              • Sep 2009
              • 3996

              #36
              Remy over Zamora? Faurlin over Henry? Cesar over Green? Yun over Hill? It doesn't matter where your from it's whether your good and commited.

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              • terry ball
                Platinum Seat
                • Oct 2009
                • 2397

                #37
                Originally posted by Johnnykc
                Agreed.....but to blame it on one particular ethnic group is just plain f***ing stupid...
                Harry is slowly getting rid of them so maybe the op has a valid point?

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                • superhoop67
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3782

                  #38
                  Dunne came to this country as a kid ,not a mercinary
                  Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                  • W12_Ranger
                    Platinum Seat
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 11447

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Felt
                    Yeah but he sounds like an idiot because he makes out like their problems were because they're French African. Zidane, Henry, Makalele, Vieira and Desailly were all alright weren't they?
                    I don't remember seeing any of those name on the team sheet the past 2 seasons?

                    Originally posted by Johnnykc
                    Agreed.....but to blame it on one particular ethnic group is just plain f***ing stupid...
                    Well one specific ethnic/cultural group has been remove from the squad and things are looking a helluva lot better than before, probably just a coincidence off course or maybe you're just plain ****ing stupid

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                    • loneranger
                      CCG
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9505

                      #40
                      Originally posted by vblockranger
                      Xenophobia ia a FEAR of that which is perceived to be foreign ...i'm not afraid just angry. Too many immigrants in London whether they are asian or eastern Europeans. If i am labelled racist or a Xenophobe for not wanting so many here and wishing it was more like the England of 30 or 40 years ago then so be it.
                      With you there v.
                      "The kids missed everything from Queens Park Rangers to Conkers".

                      London Pride has been handed down to us.
                      London Pride is a flower that's free.
                      London Pride means our own dear town to us,
                      And our pride it for ever will be.

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                      • DeepcutHoop
                        Gold Seat
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 6965

                        #41
                        Originally posted by terry ball
                        Harry is slowly getting rid of them so maybe the op has a valid point?
                        The players may have been the problem (and I'm far from convinced that singling out one specific group of players regardless of race) or they may not.

                        The suggestion is fairly implicit. French Africans = bad. British/Irish = Good

                        Reducing the skills and attitudes of individual players as dependent on their race/cultural background is simplifying things, at very best.

                        Not sure why this has extended to a debate about immigration, but not surprised.

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                        • terry ball
                          Platinum Seat
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 2397

                          #42
                          The French Africans IN OUR squad were a
                          Liability, fact.

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                          • superhoop67
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3782

                            #43
                            it's not a debate ,people are replying to youre views
                            Football played the Charlie Ferris way

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                            • DeepcutHoop
                              Gold Seat
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 6965

                              #44
                              Originally posted by superhoop67
                              it's not a debate ,people are replying to youre views
                              Semantics tbf, it was an odd but not unexpected leap from talking about the origins of QPR players, to people unapologetically stating they don't like immigrants.....

                              I'm anti-semantics myself

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                              • lymehoop
                                Gold Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 7380

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DeepcutHoop
                                The players may have been the problem (and I'm far from convinced that singling out one specific group of players regardless of race) or they may not.

                                The suggestion is fairly implicit. French Africans = bad. British/Irish = Good

                                Reducing the skills and attitudes of individual players as dependent on their race/cultural background is simplifying things, at very best.

                                Not sure why this has extended to a debate about immigration, but not surprised.
                                thankfully this site is not the bbc and people are allowed to have opinions that are not left-wing, pro immigration etc.
                                You seem to think if someone has an opinion different from you its acceptable to call him an idiot, while you express your views on here I think others have a right to do likewise
                                I must away now, I can no longer tarry
                                This morning's tempest I have to cross
                                I must be guided without a stumble
                                Into the arms I love the most

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