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  • Johnny Tightlips
    Bronze Seat
    • Jul 2013
    • 301

    #91
    Originally posted by Mem
    So felt - how would you feel if he walked tomorrow and we were back to collecting pennies to buy the likes of Jamie cureton. He is man enough to accept that things have gone wrong but is determined to put it right. Lets face it we are a small club but with tony at the helm, the potential to become a big club. Yes - he has been let down but the man continues to be positive, continues to invest and communicates with us. For that he deserves our respect and not idiotic, shallow posts.
    Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans AND backed their managers with millions and all had big plans for Academies and whizz bang new stadia. I'm seeing a few similarities here. That ended up well. Doesn't mean they were good Chairmen (though Jordan did have his good points in fairness)

    Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

    The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand. Training Ground? Minimum 3 years away. Stadium? Don't make me laugh.

    Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.
    Last edited by Johnny Tightlips; 26-07-2013, 01:09 PM.
    Meet me by the railway tracks

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    • Kit
      Silver Seat
      • Mar 2009
      • 3747

      #92
      Originally posted by Mem
      Neither - just respectful of what he is trying to do and his intent - he is a good man and no one could foresee that we would be relegated - cast your mind back to how you felt at the start of last season with all the new signings etc - he has put the money in and in my view deserves more respect and support. Everyone has a job description and accountabilities, it's other who have failed not him

      I certainly would not be complimenting Hughes, Beard, most of the players or even Harry. Fernandez is trying to transform our club
      Absolutely agree Mem

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      • Felt
        Silver Seat
        • Aug 2011
        • 1600

        #93
        Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
        Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans. That ended up well.

        Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

        The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand.

        Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.

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        • vblockranger
          • Mar 2009
          • 15218

          #94
          Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
          Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans AND backed their managers with millions. That ended up well. Doesn't mean they were good Chairmen (though Jordan did have his good points in fairness)

          Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

          The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand. Training Ground? Minimum 3 years away. Stadium? Don't make me laugh.

          Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.
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          • Mattyqpr
            Silver Seat
            • Jul 2009
            • 3576

            #95
            Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
            Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans. That ended up well.

            Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

            The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand.

            Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.
            Delivered nothing? How are we worse off on the playing side? Take a look at the squad when Tony arrived! Granted they've massively underperformed but again, that's not TF's fault.

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            • klonk
              Silver Seat
              • May 2011
              • 2401

              #96
              so anyway... who is actually off then?

              "love" = mackie (still not announced), remy and maybe taarabt?
              "don't love" = bosingwa
              "marmite players" = barton, mbia, cesar

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              • Felt
                Silver Seat
                • Aug 2011
                • 1600

                #97
                Originally posted by vblockranger
                Well lets hope he has wised up a bit because he made himself out to be a bit of a d1ckhead having his trousers pulled down and spending all that money only to get us relegated in a humiliating season. So far his 2 year tenure has been a disaster and thats a fact.
                Yep. I'm not even sure what people are arguing. That's he's a great chairman? If so I've got a bridge to sell you.

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                • Felt
                  Silver Seat
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 1600

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Mattyqpr
                  Delivered nothing? How are we worse off on the playing side? Take a look at the squad when Tony arrived! Granted they've massively underperformed but again, that's not TF's fault.
                  When he came in we had a squad that had been promoted from the Championship. They were on decent, but not stratospheric wages.

                  Now we have a squad which has been relegated from the Premiership, having won four games all season, on massive wages (yes, even by Premiership standards).

                  I wouldn't argue the squad if I were you. It's not really an asset to your argument.

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                  • DouDou_87
                    Silver Seat
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1834

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
                    Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans AND backed their managers with millions and all had big plans for Academies and whizz bang new stadia. I'm seeing a few similarities here. That ended up well. Doesn't mean they were good Chairmen (though Jordan did have his good points in fairness)

                    Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

                    The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand. Training Ground? Minimum 3 years away. Stadium? Don't make me laugh.

                    Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.
                    Very hard to disagree with that.

                    When you look at it, we've gone backwards in all the key areas since TF arrived.

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                    • jmelanie
                      Gold Seat
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 7525

                      #100
                      We had an extra year in the Premiership. Not sure that is a good thing, but with the squad that came up, pretty sure we would have been relegated the first year.

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                      • vblockranger
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 15218

                        #101
                        Originally posted by Felt
                        Yep. I'm not even sure what people are arguing. That's he's a great chairman? If so I've got a bridge to sell you.
                        Couldnt make it up Felt and i am also finding hard to understand where all the love is coming from as he hasnt actually achieved anything!. Is it the tweets and the communication? He does seem to be a bit of a PR master.

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                        • Mem
                          Referee
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2379

                          #102
                          Oh well - so what do you want to happen - do you want him to walk?

                          Be careful what you wish for ................

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                          • Mattyqpr
                            Silver Seat
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3576

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Felt
                            When he came in we had a squad that had been promoted from the Championship. They were on decent, but not stratospheric wages.

                            Now we have a squad which has been relegated from the Premiership, having won four games all season, on massive wages (yes, even by Premiership standards).
                            Yeah and TF backed Warnock in the transfer market. I didn't agree with the sacking of Warnock and still don't, that I will say against TF but the majority wanted Warnock gone!

                            The squad is still better than when he arrived. The one's on massive wages are being moved on.

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                            • casuallyqpr
                              Silver Seat
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1516

                              #104
                              Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
                              Robert Maxwell, Tom Hicks, Mark Goldberg, Simon Jordan were all very positive Chairmen who all invested millions and communicated with the fans AND backed their managers with millions and all had big plans for Academies and whizz bang new stadia. I'm seeing a few similarities here. That ended up well. Doesn't mean they were good Chairmen (though Jordan did have his good points in fairness)

                              Fernandes has delivered NOTHING. 2 years in and we're worse off, both financially and on the playing side, than when he took over despite throwing millions and millions at mercenary players and agents who couldn't wipe the rictus grins off their faces when they knew that had to negotiate with Beard - who apparently makes Ridsdale look like Warren Buffet. Hardly a ringing success.

                              The Club has had no stability under Fernandes, no structure and no direction. It is a castle built on sand. Training Ground? Minimum 3 years away. Stadium? Don't make me laugh.

                              Nothing idiotic about pointing out the glaringly obvious.
                              shhhh didnt you get the memo?

                              Uncle tony is the best thing to ever happen to the club, he's one of us and is a shrewd shrewd man.

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                              • Johnny Tightlips
                                Bronze Seat
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 301

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Mattyqpr
                                Delivered nothing? How are we worse off on the playing side? Take a look at the squad when Tony arrived! Granted they've massively underperformed but again, that's not TF's fault.
                                July 2011 - Fernandes arrives to the home of the winners of the FL Champions, newly promoted to the Premier League
                                July 2013 - Fernandes spends millions and millions and we sit back in the Football League Championship.

                                i.e. worse off. Simple

                                Just because we pay the players more money, doesn't mean they are better than the ones we had. Clearly, they're not. Oh, they might be better technically and they have a reputation because they came from Real Madrid or Spurs or Man City or some godforsaken petro-steroided club in the badlands of Russia but they clearly lack bottle, cojones, mental fortitude or other aspects that make you "A Good Player".

                                They're a shambles.
                                Meet me by the railway tracks

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