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  • Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
    Matty I personally don't see it as 'hating' or 'bashing' - more just raising questions and debating legitimate causes for concern over our club.
    This...its like some feel he cant be criticized. Not all his fault and we have to hope he has learned some vital lessons but ffs say a word againt him and you get jumped on by his fans.

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    • Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips View Post
      Who bought them? Who signed off on their ridiculous wages and signing on fees? Who hired the managers to coach them and mould them into a successful unit? This isn't a one off error here. This is mistake after mistake after mistake. You can only blame the tools for so long. At some point, you have to ask questions of the toolmaker.
      So you thought they were bad signings yeah? You disagreed with him bringing in Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp?

      As I said again, maybe we should give Flavio a call and ask him to comeback? Maybe you'd prefer that?

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      • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
        How do you think we feel with you going on about Mackie for the past 2 years! Bet you have opened the champers today! :-)
        I don't drink dear Sir, not tee total, just don't fancy it. I have had a little 7Up mind you!

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        • Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
          Bet you a million squid that the next lot of accounts are going to be more spun than a Politicians manifesto
          If that is the case then why do you and others constantly use the accounts and figures as a sign that the club is in a worse position than 2 years ago? You don't have a clue about the clubs finances anymore than i do or anyone else on here but i see it used as a negative against Fernandes when in reality the club could be better off. As i have said before just cause you see figures on a set of accounts it does not give a true reflection of the financial position of the club.

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          • Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
            NORWICH MOLE!!!!
            Yeah, you love it sweet cheeks....who's next....Clint Hill!

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            • Originally posted by Glevum_Hoop View Post
              We all know the primary reason Beard was appointed - new stadium - is he a good negotiator of football contracts? I guess the jury is very much out on that one - however all the "big" contracts he was offering were signed off by the investors. So who's to blame?
              Glevum, is there even any need for a jury on it? After all how could Beard possibly be "a good negotiator of football contracts" when he has ZERO experience in that field? And knowing that fact, what does that tell you about the judgement of the investors you refer to who signed off these contracts?

              I'd like to believe TF has learnt from his mistakes but as things stand he still has no one at board level with one iota of experience within the game.

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              • Originally posted by SammyKojoe View Post
                If that is the case then why do you and others constantly use the accounts and figures as a sign that the club is in a worse position than 2 years ago? You don't have a clue about the clubs finances anymore than i do or anyone else on here but i see it used as a negative against Fernandes when in reality the club could be better off. As i have said before just cause you see figures on a set of accounts it does not give a true reflection of the financial position of the club.
                Worse position financially not exclusively though as we are in a worse position in every other way as well...(apart from we now have a stickered up plane which isnt actually ours and we had the worlds first 3D programme last season....yay.)

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                • Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
                  So you thought they were bad signings yeah? You disagreed with him bringing in Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp?

                  As I said again, maybe we should give Flavio a call and ask him to comeback? Maybe you'd prefer that?
                  Do you feel that TF is above criticism? A Chairman who has presided over a relegation whilst nursing the 8th highest wage bill in the Premier League whilst having the smallest attendance and second lowest TV income stream.

                  Why would I want Flavio back because I criticise TF's dealings to date? I really don't understand that mindset.

                  I didn't want Hughes and vociferously argued on many other messageboards against Redknapp. His appointment is turning out to be exactly as many people thought it would. Similarly, no, didn't want SWP, Samba or Ferdinand. Proven mercenaries. I did want Barton though, thought he would be (and still could be IMO) very very useful.
                  Last edited by Johnny Tightlips; 26-07-2013, 03:16 PM.
                  Meet me by the railway tracks

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                  • Dont care as long as those out and those in mean that there is spirit, talent and fight in the dressing room.

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                    • Well I reckon at a guess I would say Tarrabt, Remy and Hoilett will definately be going.

                      If we have to balance the books then so be it, but, I think we could be in for another relegation battle if we are not careful.

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                      • Originally posted by Mattyqpr View Post
                        He blamed TF because we're now in the Championship. How? He's backed the managers and paid out big money in wages, it's not his fault our managers have brought players in which have been disaster signings.

                        He's put his trust in the football people of our club. I suppose you were moaning when Flavio was interfering? Which way do you want it then?
                        Well he quite obviously put his trust in the wrong people. And actually, as Tony's tweets clearly demonstrate, he isn't a micro-manager, so surely he has to bear some of the responsibility for what has happened. And no that doesn't mean he's Satan by any stretch but all this calling people out for questioning Tony's judgement is just as idiotic.

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                        • It would be a good idea if TF restricted his twitter activity to matters not concerning QPR in my opinion.

                          Today was not the time to put out messages like that. Mainly because, unless the deals have actually been done, how the hell can he know who is coming in and going out?

                          I am still behind him due to the commitment he has shown and continues to show in terms of wanting the best for our club. On the other hand, it is just as reasonable to acknowledge what a complete disaster he has overseen so far, albeit the fault of two awful managers. Maybe that is the lesson he should really learn.

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                          • Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
                            Matty I personally don't see it as 'hating' or 'bashing' - more just raising questions and debating legitimate causes for concern over our club.
                            For some people, yes. But there's a fair few that quite simply slate him without any real reasoned or educated back up. Not to mention taking every opportunity to do so, even when TF / the board aren't the topic of convo. Quite cringeworthy at times.
                            You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                            • Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                              For some people, yes. But there's a fair few that quite simply slate him without any real reasoned or educated back up. Not to mention taking every opportunity to do so, even when TF / the board aren't the topic of convo. Quite cringeworthy at times.
                              With you on that one mate.

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                              • Originally posted by brightonr View Post
                                It would be a good idea if TF restricted his twitter activity to matters not concerning QPR in my opinion.

                                Today was not the time to put out messages like that. Mainly because, unless the deals have actually been done, how the hell can he know who is coming in and going out?

                                I am still behind him due to the commitment he has shown and continues to show in terms of wanting the best for our club. On the other hand, it is just as reasonable to acknowledge what a complete disaster he has overseen so far, albeit the fault of two awful managers. Maybe that is the lesson he should really learn.
                                reckon his tweet today was because he got a **** load of abuse about selling mackie. obviously just had enough and snapped
                                i supported qpr in the glory days when chris kiwomya and michael ngonge played up front

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