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  • Glevum_Hoop
    Bronze Seat
    • May 2012
    • 482

    #151
    Originally posted by Mattyqpr
    I give up! I'm off out of here.

    People will soon crawl under their rock when TF gets it right, or even worse, walks! People seem to forget the Flavio days, 90% increases on tickets and spending nothing on players. Interfering with the team, signing players he wanted not the manager, sacking managers left, right and centre.

    Or the years before that, struggling to pay bills, going bust in a matter of hours, playing in League One.



    Enjoy criticising the best chairman we've had in decades. He's made mistakes, we all know that but to blame him for everything is unbelievable.
    100% correct!!!
    Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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    • Johnny Tightlips
      Bronze Seat
      • Jul 2013
      • 301

      #152
      Originally posted by Mattyqpr
      Exactly the players haven't delivered, not TF!
      Who bought them? Who signed off on their ridiculous wages and signing on fees? Who hired the managers to coach them and mould them into a successful unit? This isn't a one off error here. This is mistake after mistake after mistake. You can only blame the tools for so long. At some point, you have to ask questions of the toolmaker.
      Meet me by the railway tracks

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      • West Acton
        CCG
        • Dec 2009
        • 21475

        #153
        Originally posted by QPRDave
        West i ain't taking the itk as gospel nor am i blaming Dazzer......I'll bet you TF ain't overly happy that Harry again has chatted to the media before the facts are clear
        That was not directed at you mate

        But are you saying if Harry had not spoke to STV Hooper would have signed??

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        • theblackmafia.
          Silver Seat
          • Sep 2009
          • 3996

          #154
          Originally posted by QPRDave
          i blame you for Mackie leaving ya b*stard!!!
          My mission is complete dear Sir and may I add I do believe it was my most successful to date.

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          • MattyRangers
            Slimmer of The Year
            • Jun 2011
            • 24914

            #155
            Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
            Who bought them? Who signed off on their ridiculous wages and signing on fees? Who hired the managers to coach them and mould them into a successful unit? This isn't a one off error here. This is mistake after mistake after mistake. You can only blame the tools for so long. At some point, you have ask questions of the toolmaker.
            Hindsight is a great thing isn't it. Who, at the time, was unhappy signing Samba, Cesar, Granero, Hoilett etc? Not many of us, that's for sure.

            Tony hating is gettng boring now. If he upped sticks and said fark all this abuse and left us, we would be farked & would realise how lucky we were to have him in the first place.
            You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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            • Ginger Ninja
              W12 Seat
              • Jan 2010
              • 17458

              #156
              Originally posted by MattyRangers
              Hindsight is a great thing isn't it. Who, at the time, was unhappy signing Samba, Cesar, Granero, Hoilett etc? Not many of us, that's for sure.

              Tony hating is gettng boring now. If he upped sticks and said fark all this abuse and left us, we would be farked & would realise how lucky we were to have him in the first place.
              this, and the same people would be moaning and groaning that he's got fed up and left.
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              • Stanley
                Guest
                • Mar 2009
                • 23693

                #157
                Originally posted by Johnny Tightlips
                Who bought them? Who signed off on their ridiculous wages and signing on fees? Who hired the managers to coach them and mould them into a successful unit? This isn't a one off error here. This is mistake after mistake after mistake. You can only blame the tools for so long. At some point, you have to ask questions of the toolmaker.
                As much as it pains me to admit it I have to agree with this.

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                • Glevum_Hoop
                  Bronze Seat
                  • May 2012
                  • 482

                  #158
                  Originally posted by Stanley76
                  Spot on, and I've been slated for saying exactly that for ages. Beard, at the very least, needs someone experienced working alongside him.



                  Who, like Beard to make the deals happen and negotiate the contracts? A "football man in the game"? He's nothing of the sort, yet this is the guy TF trusts to leave in charge of everything
                  We all know the primary reason Beard was appointed - new stadium - is he a good negotiator of football contracts? I guess the jury is very much out on that one - however all the "big" contracts he was offering were signed off by the investors. So who's to blame?
                  Tony Fernandes Blue N White Army

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                  • Johnny Tightlips
                    Bronze Seat
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 301

                    #159
                    Originally posted by MattyRangers
                    Hindsight is a great thing isn't it. Who, at the time, was unhappy signing Samba, Cesar, Granero, Hoilett etc? Not many of us, that's for sure.

                    Tony hating is gettng boring now. If he upped sticks and said fark all this abuse and left us, we would be farked & would realise how lucky we were to have him in the first place.
                    It's not hating. It's questioning. It's verifying his outlandish claims. It's calling to account. I don't hate him. I want him to succeed but he isn't learning, or listening. It's easy to knock off a couple of quid off a season ticket when you have 4 years worth of parachute payments but not so easy to rectify past errors.

                    Almost every football club would be "farked" if their current owner walked out. Certainly Chelsea and Man City - in fact everyone but Man Utd. Are we lucky to have him? As others have said. He certainly talks a good talk. But walking the walk after a cataclysmic and embarrassing relegation? Not seeing it yet.
                    Meet me by the railway tracks

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                    • QPRDave
                      The number 10
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 32075

                      #160
                      Originally posted by West Acton
                      Can see you point of view Dave and would I prefer to have him tweet a little less about the club then yes I would (although it is good to hear whats going on) but in fairness to him he don't tweet about targets. He don't come out and say Were in for Hooper, were in for Cesar etc he tweets in the main about off field activities training ground, stadium etc he don't talk an awful lot about players

                      Its a difficult balance as we find with Amit he tweeted about the club but has stopped doing so recently and rumours circulate hes lost interest and is off.

                      For me in the ideal world the first news on the club should come from the official website and twitter accounts and then TF can tweet all he likes about it after

                      I stand by however that the last 24hrs and Hooper going else where is nothing to do with TF tweeting or Harry giving an interview and if people think that is the case then they seriously need to come back into reality as the Hooper deal went south for no other reason then his Agent and himself the only thing we done wrong in that deal as I think V Block suggested is that we never gave a deadline and said take it or leave it by X date we got played and look unprofessional for it

                      As Deeps says we just think were more high profile as its out club its our gold fish bowl so we know or think we know everything which is going on. Ask a fan of any other club who are active in the market and they will feel the same and have the same complaints
                      Yeah ok i admit TF don't name targets, and tbh i don't blame the man for this latest embarrassment either it's not his doing, but for him to ask why we believe all these things is because there seems to be nothing but
                      drama at the club thats all i was saying. Oh and i do find it embarrassing when fans go on his twitter and hint for him to buy them a shirt or a ticket its cringey. Again not his fault but because he's on there they do it.
                      I do think HR was wrong to raise expectation among the supporters when the deal was not done

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                      • theblackmafia.
                        Silver Seat
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3996

                        #161
                        SHUT THE FLIP FLOP UP YA MOANING TWONKS - it is seriously boring, and yes I know I don't have to read it before some boring twonk says so.

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                        • vblockranger
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 15218

                          #162
                          Originally posted by MattyRangers
                          Hindsight is a great thing isn't it. Who, at the time, was unhappy signing Samba, Cesar, Granero, Hoilett etc? Not many of us, that's for sure.

                          Tony hating is gettng boring now. If he upped sticks and said fark all this abuse and left us, we would be farked & would realise how lucky we were to have him in the first place.
                          We would be farked because of the mistakes he has made not farked because he was doing such a good job. No good hanging onto his shirt tails as some kind of super chairman, he got us here and we are in a worse position now than when he took over from Amit.

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                          • Stanley
                            Guest
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23693

                            #163
                            Originally posted by MattyRangers
                            Tony hating is gettng boring now.
                            Matty I personally don't see it as 'hating' or 'bashing' - more just raising questions and debating legitimate causes for concern over our club.

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                            • vblockranger
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 15218

                              #164
                              Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                              SHUT THE FLIP FLOP UP YA MOANING TWONKS - it is seriously boring, and yes I know I don't have to read it before some boring twonk says so.
                              How do you think we feel with you going on about Mackie for the past 2 years! Bet you have opened the champers today! :-)

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                              • QPRDave
                                The number 10
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 32075

                                #165
                                Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                                My mission is complete dear Sir and may I add I do believe it was my most successful to date.
                                NORWICH MOLE!!!!

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