Redknapp isn't doing enough

[Ginger Ninja]

No i dont want to sack him and change managers again, as you say stabiulity is essential now. What i want is for him to have a spine and take some accountability for some of the failure this season and stop making excuses already for next year. He's clearly itching for a large transfer budget again, and imo, we cant be going through a transffer window farce again. Too many comings and goings do not create a good team spirit needed among the squad.

As for the accountability thing, that goes for all those fans sho suggest he's blemeless in all this also.

Just so you know mate, I wasn't singling you out there, my post was aimed at everyone.
Good reply though.

[QPRDave]

Of course, Harry mustn't take any responsibility for taking us down regardless of his shocking performance....! Forget comparing with Hughes at the start of the season, that was shocking yes, but any manager who comes in would've improved things. Harry did, ut not by anywhere near enough.

They have both been sh1te for us and both deserve blame. How anyone can sugest Redknapp has done nothign wrong when you look at how many "winnable" games he's failed to win is pathetic.

Sick of hearing all this rubbish about they werent his players etc etc.. that's an excuse. Any manager into a new job gets a group who aren't their players and is expected to get a tune and improvement from them. Harry did marginally, nothing more. The fact the players were massively underperforming anyway, i see that as minimum expectation. He didnt get them performing well.

What winnable games were they then???....You honestly telling me that there were games that were guaranteed wins??? The players aren't good enough or are we in a false position?
The damage to the club was done last summer, when the changing room was split down the middle and then a number of players not deemed good enough were recalled because the prima donnas
couldn't deliver a win.
Harry did get improvement from the team he started on 4 points, if the team continued picking up points at that rate we would have managed 12 all season

[Ric-Roc]

Think you're wrong.........try 1 before us, both of them coming into the job not from the start. I don't blame him or "credit" him with taking us down, Hughes sent us down

Bournemouth, Southampton & QPR.

THREE.

Your last line makes absolutely no sense. On his cv he has taken THREE clubs down. Period.

[Del]

What winnable games were they then???....You honestly telling me that there were games that were guaranteed wins??? The players aren't good enough or are we in a false position?
The damage to the club was done last summer, when the changing room was split down the middle and then a number of players not deemed good enough were recalled because the prima donnas
couldn't deliver a win.
Harry did get improvement from the team he started on 4 points, if the team continued picking up points at that rate we would have managed 12 all season

Since when does the term winnable suggest guaranteed wins...? nobody has a divine right to win any game.
The point is there were plenty of games we should've competed in better. Funny how Hughes is slated for losing games deemed winnable, yet when said of Harry, suddently it shouldn't be said.

Also as said before you cant compare HR to hughes, forget the 4 points. What is relevant is how Harry compared to his peers in his time in charge, ie the clubs in the relegation fight. He's been worse than all of them and gone from 6 points behind 17th to 14 points behind... that has nothing to do with Mark Hughes.

[QPRDave]

Bournemouth, Southampton & QPR.

THREE.

Your last line makes absolutely no sense. On his cv he has taken THREE clubs down. Period.

So not 5 clubs then ???? Period
I think if you read his wiki page he took over the Bournemouth job late in the season and failed to keep them up.

At the beginning of the 1982–83 season Redknapp took up his first major coaching role as assistant manager to David Webb at Bournemouth, six years after leaving the club as a player. Redknapp applied for the manager's job when Webb moved to Torquay United part way through that season, but was overlooked in favour of Don Megson. Megson did not last long in the position and was sacked in late 1983 with the Cherries in trouble near the foot of the Third Division and Redknapp was handed the manager's position.[citation needed]

[QPRDave]

Since when does the term winnable suggest guaranteed wins...? nobody has a divine right to win any game.
The point is there were plenty of games we should've competed in better. Funny how Hughes is slated for losing games deemed winnable, yet when said of Harry, suddently it shouldn't be said.

Also as said before you cant compare HR to hughes, forget the 4 points. What is relevant is how Harry compared to his peers in his time in charge, ie the clubs in the relegation fight. He's been worse than all of them and gone from 6 points behind 17th to 14 points behind... that has nothing to do with Mark Hughes.

Why can't we compare him to Hughes? They were Hughes' misfits and he managed 4 points.......As for the points going from 6pts to 14pts since the Villa game the players have given up, so don't see how you can include that either

[silvercue]

He has failed in his target. Simple as that.

Do you think Hughes was sacked so someone else could take us down?

[QPRDave]

He has failed in his target. Simple as that.

Do you think Hughes was sacked so someone else could take us down?

He has failed i don't disagree......so what do you want? Sack him? We had a thread about Bosingwa last night and sympathy for him for being the scapegoat
yet Redknapp is now clearly a different option. Fine i tell you what i'll go along with the rest then......... lets sack him ......lets get Fernandes, Mittal , and the other backers
out cause they're all to blame.

[Del]

Why can't we compare him to Hughes? They were Hughes' misfits and he managed 4 points.......As for the points going from 6pts to 14pts since the Villa game the players have given up, so don't see how you can include that either

Because the time before he arrived is irrelevant. Hughes failed we all know that. But we need to judge HR on his time here, against the competition while he was in charge and he has also failed. Why cant some fans accept both managers this season have failed...???

[silvercue]

He has failed i don't disagree......so what do you want? Sack him? We had a thread about Bosingwa last night and sympathy for him for being the scapegoat
yet Redknapp is now clearly a different option. Fine i tell you what i'll go along with the rest then......... lets sack him ......lets get Fernandes, Mittal , and the other backers
out cause they're all to blame.

No I don't want him sacked. But I am bored of fans saying this is only Mark Hughes fault. There is fault with a lot of people here - and HR is one of the main culprits. He raised the white flag after the Villa game from what I saw. Listening to fans sing songs blaming MH when we let in goals like a pub team under HR is just embarrassing.

[Ric-Roc]

He has failed in his target. Simple as that.

Do you think Hughes was sacked so someone else could take us down?

Save your breath mate. Dave ain't got a scooby these days. Shame used to be a good poster.

[QPRDave]

Ric i just think the damage was done long before Harry took over....The collapse on the opening day (hindsight) was the pointer.
Look i apologise to you here and now for the post picking you up for the relegation thing and yes ok the manager in charge at the time is the
one that has taken them down,so therefore i was arguing for the sake of it, and there was no need for me to answer you in a pr*ckly style i did.
The team was never together imo, we had no strikers, worth talking about, and the Redknapp signings i feel in Jan performed and lifted the team
but the players bought in the summer, i personally don't think cared a jot, and so were slapdash.
Worst offenders for me Cesar, Bosingwa, Granero, Park Hoilett, Diakite ...as for Mbia i have defended him all season and i would rather a tryer
with no talent than a Cisse with talent but didn't try. anyway i'll leave it there.

[brightonr]

He has failed in his target. Simple as that.

You sound a bit like the Man City owners.

Dave, full marks for your defence of Harry. I hope he can do the business next season, but I cannot see how he can escape a large proportion of the blame for the current mess.

[silvercue]

You sound a bit like the Man City owners.

I wish I could spend like them.

[QPRDave]

You sound a bit like the Man City owners.

Dave, full marks for your defence of Harry. I hope he can do the business next season, but I cannot see how he can escape a large proportion of the blame for the current mess.

I have said he has failed above Brighton. If, as some on here seem to want to, yes you can blame him for not motivating the team, but if those same people think about it, it's not like
switching on a light. You can't just say right i'm here and you're all wonderful now let's go play ....and anyone that thinks it is, are naive.
I actually think HR is wrong to say they have tried.....some have Clint, Nelsen Fabio, but some have been a mixture of not trying and not been good enough Cisse,Bos, Hoilett, Mbia Diakite, Cesar BZ.
I just don't see why everyone is so upset or surprised that a team relegated weeks ago are performing so poorly, and what exactly they are trying to achieve blaming the manager, but insist they don't want him sacked.
So what is it then?.....No different than looking for a scapegoat. Pointless exercise it's done, it's over, the sooner the games are the better and then we look forward.