Loftus Road

[Qprnw10]

It does wind me up on match days walking through the Bush when were playing the likes of Wigan and seeing people/kids in Arsenal, Man Utd and Liverpool gear walking about. I think you have a club on your door step why you not backing them.

Agreed!!!!!!!

[blueboy]

Agreed!!!!!!!

yes it does wind me up a bit,but i live a darn sight closer to Vicarage Rd then LR,and have done for 30 years(even though i originally come from Paddington)theres no way i,or anybody connected with me and my family are going to support Watford

[rodders]

would think a few brighton fans would still like to be at the goldstone ground. love loftus road. is there any point in trying to become a big club? spend 300 million on a ground get some new fans, best we could aim at is 7th. whole premier thing is a waste of time. play38 hopefully beat chelsea twice and a couple of big guns stay up thats all the future is.

[West Acton]

yes it does wind me up a bit,but i live a darn sight closer to Vicarage Rd then LR,and have done for 30 years(even though i originally come from Paddington)theres no way i,or anybody connected with me and my family are going to support Watford

Fair point Blueboy but you have an attachment hence its passed through your routes. But there is no way given the amount of Man Utd and Liverpool tops seen in West London is connected to the number of manc or scousers in the local vacinity its purely down to people wanting to be associated with big clubs no more no less

[QPRWEBBIE]

For me Old Oak Common by the Scrubs is the way to go as it will complement the current plans to regenerate the area with HS2 and Park Royal City. Most clubs when they build a new ground want to be part of a bigger development we are in the fortunate position where we could have this without having had to contribute other then the cost of a ground. If we could stay in the Bush we have Westfield on our door step. If we pulled off Old Oak Common/Scrubs were part of Park Royal City












There is a huge plot of Land in Park Royal by Diageo which over looks Wembely Stadium which is begging to be developed but there is not an awful lot around there facility wise so although it has huge potential I think a development there would need other investors to come in on. The footprint is massive and is a blank canvas for any designer to come up with a ground, shopping and offices etc

That ground behind Diageo is the old Guinness site isn't it ? I was lead to believe that was going to be one of the preferred sites for the new station when the over haul of Park Royal estate starts

[blueboy]

Well,unfortunately thats one of the consequences of Sky.To be honest though,as long as i can remember,even at School,there were always Man Utd and Liverpool fans(and that was back in the 80's,when Match of the Day ruled).Its not them we have to worry about,its really Chelsea and Arsenal who pose the biggest competition.Unless we try and get these kids onside,our hardcore support will go down.It doesnt matter if you are, as a parent,a QPR fan,you can't compete with Sky.Once your kids are hypnotised by the glamour of these clubs via TV,its really hard to get through to them..i know,i have tried

[blueboy]

would think a few brighton fans would still like to be at the goldstone ground. love loftus road. is there any point in trying to become a big club? spend 300 million on a ground get some new fans, best we could aim at is 7th. whole premier thing is a waste of time. play38 hopefully beat chelsea twice and a couple of big guns stay up thats all the future is.

i would seriously doubt many Brighton fans would still want to be at the Goldstone..it was a dump back then..have you seen the new stadium?its fantastic..why would you want to go back to the Goldstone.I dont understand why building a new stadium means we want to become a big club...if that was the case,Reading would still be at Elm Park,Soton the Dell.Its about being fit for purpose.

[rodders]

how about coventry fans? remember highfield road decent stadium would imagine 26-28000 and it belonged to them. think they would rather have stayed put

[blueboy]

how about coventry fans? remember highfield road decent stadium would imagine 26-28000 and it belonged to them. think they would rather have stayed put

well,it held 23k,but you have put your finger on it,it was a decent Stadium,they didnt need to move,they had plenty of spare capacity,and it was a decent modern ground.Plus they cocked up by not owning the stadium,thats what has caused them the problem,not the stadium itself,its the ownership.And thats one example,where a club got it spectacularly wrong
look at Luton Town,if they had managed to get a move to a new stadium,would they be in the position they are in now?

[QPRDave]

would think a few brighton fans would still like to be at the goldstone ground. love loftus road. is there any point in trying to become a big club? spend 300 million on a ground get some new fans, best we could aim at is 7th. whole premier thing is a waste of time. play38 hopefully beat chelsea twice and a couple of big guns stay up thats all the future is.

But if that's the way you look at it then football itself is a waste of time.....QPR is a waste of time....The alternative is championship football or below and no ambition to go up, so..... beat Watford/Charlton/Palace/Millwall a couple of times a season ......that's all the future would be down the leagues.

[blueboy]

But if that's the way you look at it then football itself is a waste of time.....QPR is a waste of time....The alternative is championship football or below and no ambition to go up, so..... beat Watford/Charlton/Palace/Millwall a couple of times a season ......that's all the future would be down the leagues.

well said...for me,the main point in supporting,and going to see us play is to see us win.With this sort of attitude,you'd be going to games hoping we'd lose,coz if we dont,and keep winning,promotion is inevitable..

[BUSHRANGER1982]

In 1965/66 we averaged what? 8-12,000 crowds?
Jump forward to 1975/76, and it's double that, with a few 30,000+ crowds thrown in for good measure.
In the early 80s, 20,000+ crowds were not unheard of. One game against Spurs had a gate over 28,000.
Success, plus an entertaining playing style during that decade, were key elements to our increase in popularity. Of course, ticket prices have to be affordable to as many people as possible, in order to maximise the gate.
It happened then.
Under the same circumstances, it would happen again. 18,000 capacity is too small.
We need a stadium that holds at least 25,000 spectators, with the ability to expand if,and when, necessary.

[lymehoop]

In 1965/66 we averaged what? 8-12,000 crowds?
Jump forward to 1975/76, and it's double that, with a few 30,000+ crowds thrown in for good measure.
In the early 80s, 20,000+ crowds were not unheard of. One game against Spurs had a gate over 28,000.
Success, plus an entertaining playing style during that decade, were key elements to our increase in popularity. Of course, ticket prices have to be affordable to as many people as possible, in order to maximise the gate.
It happened then.
Under the same circumstances, it would happen again. 18,000 capacity is too small.
We need a stadium that holds at least 25,000 spectators, with the ability to expand if,and when, necessary.

this, plus people are forgetting, Loftus Road is a very uncomfortable stadium, seating and trying to use the facilities

[West Acton]

In 1965/66 we averaged what? 8-12,000 crowds?
Jump forward to 1975/76, and it's double that, with a few 30,000+ crowds thrown in for good measure.
In the early 80s, 20,000+ crowds were not unheard of. One game against Spurs had a gate over 28,000.
Success, plus an entertaining playing style during that decade, were key elements to our increase in popularity. Of course, ticket prices have to be affordable to as many people as possible, in order to maximise the gate.
It happened then.
Under the same circumstances, it would happen again. 18,000 capacity is too small.
We need a stadium that holds at least 25,000 spectators, with the ability to expand if,and when, necessary.

Agree if we build a new stadium I think I would go 30k but built in a way where it can be expanded (Emirates Superstructure is for four tiers) if needed.

Building a new stadium with anything less then 30k would be a bit short sighted especially if we have genuine ambitions to stay as top flight side. I think if we are competitive and getting to the later stages of of cup competitions we could pull 25k week in week out so that extra 5k gives a little bit of expansion space

[blueboy]

too true about LR being umcomfortable,i have the only way i can fit into my seat is to lean forward,as there is no legroom,and the seats are nowhere near wide enough.(i'm not fat before anybody starts)for days after a game,my back and legs are aching