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  • West Acton
    CCG
    • Dec 2009
    • 21475

    #16
    Originally posted by Marshy
    I have seen a lot of that myth going around lately, and as I like to destroy myths, and as Adel is our longest serving player at the club who was instrumental in the promotion, I think it is about time I destroy the myth.

    There is no doubt that Adel does not have pace like a lot of other wingers do such as Ronaldo or Bale or even Townsend. So when Adel goes past a defender, he knows that if the defender is quick, the defender will catch him up soon. So we come to the situation where Adel has to either release the ball quickly, get a shot in on goal, or hold the ball up and play someone in.

    Because we had lazy Cisse up front in the early part of the season, who was rarely making any decent runs, and we had sh1te like Mackie up front who was rarely in a good position, Tarbs could not release the ball early. So instead, on many occasions, he decided to have some terrible long-range effort. And on other occasions, he decided to hold the ball up and play others in. And it is from this last point that the myth has arisen - that Adel always slows down the play. What people don't realise is, that when he does, it is because there are no decent runners in front of him.

    Let's look at the two games he has played with Remy. He certainly did not hold up the play against West Ham, and he certainly did not hold up the play against Man City. So it is clear that when Adel has people in front of him making intelligent runs, then he will move the ball forward quickly.

    OK, next myth I will work on destroying is the "Adel is the worst shooter in the team" one - should be fun.
    So in short what you are saying is as he does not have pace to get away from his man he turns back when he gets caught and slows the play down

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    • terry ball
      Platinum Seat
      • Oct 2009
      • 2397

      #17
      Could you not of posted on one of the threads relevant or is your voice so important it warrants a new one?

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      • qpr4life
        Gold Seat
        • Apr 2009
        • 5044

        #18
        Marshy you are missing the point IMO

        1. Adel currently is not in FORM
        2. When on form he is our best player no doubting this
        3. However when we do play him, he is usually our vocal point, a player who can create something out of nothing
        4. The main issue is, that when we play Adel up top, he doesnt like to sit up top. He comes to get the ball which stops play in itself. And then we lack presence up front etc
        5. Remy and Bothroyd is exactly what we needed runs and hold up play
        6. Adel cannot fit in a 4-4-2 formation sadly
        7. When he has the ball its usually in the middle of the park we cant always utilise this. Not every game suits him

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        • terry ball
          Platinum Seat
          • Oct 2009
          • 2397

          #19
          Originally posted by qpr4life
          Marshy you are missing the point IMO

          1. Adel currently is not in FORM
          2. When on form he is our best player no doubting this
          3. However when we do play him, he is usually our vocal point, a player who can create something out of nothing
          4. The main issue is, that when we play Adel up top, he doesnt like to sit up top. He comes to get the ball which stops play in itself. And then we lack presence up front etc
          5. Remy and Bothroyd is exactly what we needed runs and hold up play
          6. Adel cannot fit in a 4-4-2 formation sadly
          7. When he has the ball its usually in the middle of the park we cant always utilise this. Not every game suits him
          Vocal point? Is he a singer then?

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          • QPR71
            Silver Seat
            • Jul 2012
            • 3055

            #20
            at what point was the myth destroyed? i just read a virtual diary of tarbs decribed slowing down play. you need to keep working on it marshy

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            • qpr4life
              Gold Seat
              • Apr 2009
              • 5044

              #21
              Originally posted by terry ball
              Vocal point? Is he a singer then?
              haha - No I was thinking more of the following

              Something that we use most frequent, Something is the centre of attention, something that draws your eyes to it immediately, something that stands out from everything else.

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              • terry ball
                Platinum Seat
                • Oct 2009
                • 2397

                #22
                Like a focal point?

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                • qpr4life
                  Gold Seat
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 5044

                  #23
                  Originally posted by terry ball
                  Like a focal point?
                  are you REALLY picking me up on this...

                  it was funny at first...but now..

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                  • theblackmafia.
                    Silver Seat
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3996

                    #24
                    Tarbs is like gay sex - you either love it or hate it....

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                    • Stanley
                      Guest
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 23693

                      #25
                      Marshy's thoughts

                      Originally posted by NortholtRanger
                      Like i said a few months back, a 'Marshys thoughts' thread would put a stop to all these needless ones
                      Not a bad idea Norths. Let's give it a whirl...

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                      • theblackmafia.
                        Silver Seat
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3996

                        #26
                        Some thoughts are just best kept to ones self, just like opinions; some people should not be allowed to voice them.

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                        • Stanley
                          Guest
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 23693

                          #27
                          Originally posted by theblackmafia.
                          Some thoughts are just best kept to ones self, just like opinions; some people should not be allowed to voice them.
                          A comprise is at least we can keep them all in a single thread, like this.

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                          • TBLOCKRANGER
                            Silver Seat
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2909

                            #28
                            I think the geezer is the George Soros of WATRBs.
                            When everyone said Arry was doing well, Marshy said no, we must attack, attack, attack.
                            Posters said no, Marshy was radio rental.
                            Then the bubble burst and posters said attack attack attack.

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                            • theblackmafia.
                              Silver Seat
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3996

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Stanley76
                              A comprise is at least we can keep them all in a single thread, like this.
                              If only, they seem to spread like a virus and before you know it you start seeing Marshys opinions in your sleep!

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                              • Rich
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3412

                                #30
                                There is no right or wrong to this debate. We have been poor as a team, we have used more players than the other 91 football league teams put together. This means different players, in different positions in different formations getting beat and/or defending deep week after week.

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