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Taarabt will never be a great
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Adel is a top class player, the real greats play well consistently and if we are honest, that is not the case with Adel (yet)
May I remind you all, he is still very young and IMO is getting better.
Obviously, he would be even better with better quality around him, but that can be said about anyone, tbf
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ok, but most of these chances were self-created, often through a piece of skill than fewer than ten players in teh league would be capable of. Sometimes, when he does something relying on a combination of skill and strength, no one else can do what he does.Originally posted by Marshy View PostI agree with everything you say. I just find it frustrating that these chances should be going in, because come May, it will be a point or two that decides whether or not we go down.
Mackie and SWP have missed countless sitters this season, usually laid on a plate for them by Adel. Get frustrated with them, not Adel!
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He IS consistent. He's been consistent all season, and most of the season before that. Just because he doesn't score twice every game doesn't mean he isn't playing well. He's constantly our main attacking threat, often our only source of creativity, and he isn't even a defensive liability anymore.Originally posted by Busheyboy View PostAdel is a top class player, the real greats play well consistently and if we are honest, that is not the case with Adel (yet)
May I remind you all, he is still very young and IMO is getting better.
Obviously, he would be even better with better quality around him, but that can be said about anyone, tbf
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Trust me, I do!Originally posted by Geng View Postok, but most of these chances were self-created, often through a piece of skill than fewer than ten players in teh league would be capable of. Sometimes, when he does something relying on a combination of skill and strength, no one else can do what he does.
Mackie and SWP have missed countless sitters this season, usually laid on a plate for them by Adel. Get frustrated with them, not Adel!
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That wont be Taarabs fault as thats down to the strikersOriginally posted by Marshy View PostI think you misunderstood my post. I am not putting anyone down. I love Tarbs, but his finishing is very inconsistent, and could be the difference between staying up and going down.
He has only played that role a few times to fill in and done alright
If he was was messing up losing the ball and bad on the ball you would have a point
Hart pulled off a great save which makes your point void
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I must add that the Adel of last season wouldn't have been quick enough to pull away and be 1 on 1 with Clichy then Hart.
Clichy cleverly put Adel onto his left and Hart made a good save. Or, Adel's pace frightened Clichy and it just worked out that Clichy was so far to Adel's right that any trick trying to get Clichy to go left to get a shot from his right wouldn't have worked.
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Surely if Tarbs was on the level of Messi or Ronaldo, he would be playing for a team of that level. We are fortunate he had issues/inconsistencies in the past that forced managers to disregard him, otherwise we may never have seen him play in a hoops shirt, he has single handedly provided most of our highlights over the past few seasons and thus deserves more respect than this. You also state "he is not a goalscorer", you are correct, he is an attacking midfielder who has been playing out of position. Also the point that he will never be great, well how many ex-rangers are regarded as "Greats" in world football? you say it as if we should be disappointed, as we've had much better in the past.Originally posted by Marshy View PostI love the guy, I think he is outrageously talented, and with his improved attitude and hard-work, I think if he was playing for a better side with better players, he would constantly be getting rave reviews - but the fact remains, he is not a goalscorer. Someone like Van Persie or Messi or Ronaldo would have buried that chance yesterday, but you just knew Tarbs was going to miss. So whilst I think he can make his way to the top and be a success, but I don't think he will ever be a "great".
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It depends what you mean by "great". I have seen a BIG improvement over the last year (he now contributes to the TEAM). If his finishing and shooting ever improved to the same extent he really would be off to one of the top clubs. He is an amazing talent on the ball.'Only a Ranger!' cried Gandalf. 'My dear Frodo, that is just what the Rangers are: the last remnant in the South of the great people, the Men of West London.' - Lord of the Rings, Book II, Chapter I - Many Meetings.
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9 points if you include the fools (in which Adel proved his genius once again). Very good return I reckon.Originally posted by QprSinceBirth View PostJust enjoy the draw against man city FFs . It's getting ridiculous the amount of threads created slagging off players when we just picked up 6 points against Chelsea, man city , spurs and west ham.
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RVP, Messi and Ronaldo are world class players. So is your complaint that Adel is not world-class yet...which is hardly a big complaint is it? Besides its certainly not a given that those 3 would've "buried it" with Hart in goal.Originally posted by Marshy View PostBack to the original point, it was a good save, but RVP, Messi, Ronaldo, these guys would have buried it.
"Sitters" and "shots" that he conjured from nothing and that no other player in our team has the ability to create?Originally posted by Marshy View PostTarbs also missed a sitter against Villa (I think). And some of his shooting is totally wayward. And it is small things like these that can be the difference between staying up and going down.
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