The thread to end all threads about Koreans following particular football players

[Joon]

Joon has got to understand that following an individual from one club to another is not supporting a team. Moving to another club after Park leaves like the majority have left Man Utd is also an alien concept to an English football fan. I dont dislike the nation of Korea because of it obviously , its nothing personal but it doesnt sit that well with me. I like the fact Koreans are going to the games because that brings in money to my club which is always good. I dont think Park is any good as a player and i think he never will be after that last injury. For some reason criticizing Park on this forum seems to annoy the Korean fans to the point where they have to resort to looking for racial abuse. Thats all it is in my opinion..its the fact that for some their hero getting any kind of abuse or criticism winds them up so much they take it personally. The same as if i would get wound up if someone were to criticize QPR the team on a general football forum. But thats too bad, they are going to have to learn to accept criticisms and abuse aimed towards Park and learn not too take it personally.

I have stated in most of my starting posts and many others that everyone has a right to criticize Park's performance.

If you still feel that I am posting because I am upset at people criticizing Park's performance, I will just say this one more time that I opened this thread out of concern for the ill will against Korean fans in general that I see in this forum, and that I have not been having this extended discussion with you for some ulterior motive such as trying to defend Park.

Your earlier stated that you had no bad intent in anything you said, and I took it at face value, your word was good enough for me. Will you extend me the same courtesy?

[vblockranger]

Yep, correct pal, that wont be changing anytime soon. Dont like your sort (americanised sensitive to everything type).

exactly...some Americans do have a problem with profanity used in the media and are quite loud about it on a lot of media based forums. LOL land of the free and all that :-). At least the lucky buggers get to keep guns in their households! envy them for that.

[Norths]

I have stated in most of my starting posts and many others that everyone has a right to criticize Park's performance.

If you still feel that I am posting because I am upset at people criticizing Park's performance, I will just say this one more time that I opened this thread out of concern for the ill will against Korean fans in general that I see in this forum, and that I have not been having this extended discussion with you for some ulterior motive such as trying to defend Park.

Your earlier stated that you had no bad intent in anything you said, and I took it at face value, your word was good enough for me. Will you extend me the same courtesy?

There is only ill will (if you can call it that) from those that are questioning whether the commitment is long term...

[Joon]

Yep, correct pal, that wont be changing anytime soon. Dont like your sort (americanised sensitive to everything type).

The dislike is mutual, but I don't like you specifically. You however are still showing how closed-minded and biased you are by typecasting me and expressing dislike for other cultures (this time, American culture).

Not once in any of my posts have I done the same, nor do I think in that manner. Yes, we are very different, you and I.

[vblockranger]

I have stated in most of my starting posts and many others that everyone has a right to criticize Park's performance.

If you still feel that I am posting because I am upset at people criticizing Park's performance, I will just say this one more time that I opened this thread out of concern for the ill will against Korean fans in general that I see in this forum, and that I have not been having this extended discussion with you for some ulterior motive such as trying to defend Park.

Your earlier stated that you had no bad intent in anything you said, and I took it at face value, your word was good enough for me. Will you extend me the same courtesy?

Did you support Man Utd when Park played for them? will you start to support the next team Park moves too? I welcome the financial benefits of you (if you go to games or buy shirts) but i dont see you as QPR fan or supporter if this is the case. Nothing to do with you being Korean as i would feel the same if it was an Englishman moving support from club to club following an individual. Simple as that really, just my opinion and nothing at all personal.

[Norths]

The dislike is mutual, but I don't like you specifically. You however are still showing how closed-minded and biased you are by typecasting me and expressing dislike for other cultures (this time, American culture).

Not once in any of my posts have I done the same, nor do I think in that manner. Yes, we are very different, you and I.

Indeed we are.

[vblockranger]

The dislike is mutual, but I don't like you specifically. You however are still showing how closed-minded and biased you are by typecasting me and expressing dislike for other cultures (this time, American culture).

Not once in any of my posts have I done the same, nor do I think in that manner. Yes, we are very different, you and I.

there is no law against expressing dislike for certain cultures and Americans are viewed generally as being loud and over the top forth right in their convictions. Just how it is. I am sure us Brits have some things about our culture that is remarked upon all over the world..we dont cry about it

[Norths]

there is no law against expressing dislike for certain cultures and Americans are viewed generally as being loud and over the top forth right in their convictions. Just how it is. I am sure us Brits have some things about our culture that is remarked upon all over the world..we dont cry about it

Indeed Vblock. They expect us to just roll over though.

[Joon]

Did you support Man Utd when Park played for them? will you start to support the next team Park moves too? I welcome the financial benefits of you (if you go to games or buy shirts) but i dont see you as QPR fan or supporter if this is the case. Nothing to do with you being Korean as i would feel the same if it was an Englishman moving support from club to club following an individual. Simple as that really, just my opinion and nothing at all personal.

Yes, I did support Manchester United as an overseas fan could. I watched their games, I cheered for them and was happy to see them do well, and sad to see them lose cups or league titles, since 2005, when Park transferred to Manchester United, no less. I still support them, as I support QPR. Fortunately, if one can call this good fortune, one can support both Manchester United and QPR without worrying about who to cheer for the premiership title (at least for this season). I know Manchester United and its players as well as an overseas fan could, and while I'm not watching as many of their games this season (since I'm watching QPR), I still root for them over other clubs. So, are you going to claim that I am not a fan of that club? Or that being a fan of Manchester United automatically disqualifies me as a fan of QPR? I do not need your approval to be a fan of QPR, and neither does anyone else.

As for continuing to claim that I am crying wolf, you should blame your poor memory. You were in the thread, and if you think that was not racist you are deluding yourself.

[Joon]

Indeed Vblock. They expect us to just roll over though.

Roll over.

[willis1980]

i think a lot of people get ahead of themselves somewhat when they bandy the word racist about these days,when i go onto twitter after qpr games and see some of the comments that are made in regards to Park i end up quite baffled. you frequently see korean Park fans accusing people who criticise his performance as racists, i dont quite see how describing a players performance as dogsh 1 t or w@nk etc can be construed as being racist. I use the word dogsh 1 t daily and wouldnt stop using it in the company of koreans as my statement has no racial conotations, in fact if I were to stop using it I reckon thatd be racist. its an everyday word the use of which has been misconstrued, is it racist to say "im nipping round the shops for some fags, i couldnt give a monkeys or fark me its nippy out there today"?

[Norths]

This Joon is in no way good for the forum whatsoever but hey ho, if these are the sort of characters MYU et al are willing to entertain to keep the revenue flowing in then so be it.

[vblockranger]

Yes, I did support Manchester United as an overseas fan could. I watched their games, I cheered for them and was happy to see them do well, and sad to see them lose cups or league titles, since 2005, when Park transferred to Manchester United, no less. I still support them, as I support QPR. Fortunately, if one can call this good fortune, one can support both Manchester United and QPR without worrying about who to cheer for the premiership title (at least for this season). I know Manchester United and its players as well as an overseas fan could, and while I'm not watching as many of their games this season (since I'm watching QPR), I still root for them over other clubs. So, are you going to claim that I am not a fan of that club? Or that being a fan of Manchester United fan automatically disqualifies me as a fan of QPR? I do not need your approval to be a fan of QPR, and neither does anyone else.

As for continuing to claim that I am crying wolf, you should blame your poor memory. You were in the thread, and if you think that was not racist you are deluding yourself.

Or that being a fan of Manchester United fan automatically disqualifies me as a fan of QPR?
that bit mate...to me you are not a QPR supporter if you also support Man Utd. Simple as that. You cant support 2 clubs and when Park leaves you will start supporting the club he goes too. So to me..you are not a QPR supporter. Glad we cleared that up. As for me being racist? you are wrong. Bet this isnt the first time you have cried wolf either

[EYR]

Fair play to the Koreans if your buying all the tat from the club shop and putting money back into the club, but as for your opinions and views on football they don't carry much weight to be honest.

[willis1980]

there is no law against expressing dislike for certain cultures and Americans are viewed generally as being loud and over the top forth right in their convictions. Just how it is. I am sure us Brits have some things about our culture that is remarked upon all over the world..we dont cry about it

Amen brother! High five dude, now lets do some shottttttts and watch the soccer