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  • stanistheman
    Platinum Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 11151

    #16
    Originally posted by jpsuperhooper
    Traore, Bosingwa and Cisse obviously dont give a S*%T, just look at their effort
    Cisse put in the effort against Reading and Stoke. It's not all his fault he gets such poor service.
    Bosingwa does not look at all interested. A few others look demotivated and that is down to Hughes and his style of management. I can well believe that a lot of them don't like him because in large spells of many of the displays this season would suggest they are not playing for him. I saw this years ago when Trevor Francis ****ed off a number of players and they stopped performing until he got sacked.

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    • Will M
      Silver Seat
      • May 2012
      • 2737

      #17
      I should hope there is dressing room unrest, there is clearly no cohesive game plan at the moment.

      It's a strange one, you're at a club and the manager is out of ideas, but the owner is backing him to the hilt. What do you do? Give 100% and paper over the cracks? Or stop performing to get the manager out?

      I'm not sure what I'd do. I'd probably try and take over the team myself if I'm honest, start making my own tactics with other senior players. And no I'm not ****ing John Terry before anyone asks!

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      • hoopsididitagain
        Apprentice
        • Jul 2012
        • 94

        #18
        I would have Barton back in a heartbeat. Who cares if he hangs the dirty laundry in public, at least it would show up who gave a sh*t and who did not. Barton, Hill, Derry, Mackie, Taarabt and Nelson should as far as i am concerned all play a part in this squad. I would rather go down with these players putting in an effort and making me care about the team again, than watching the wishy washy tripe served up by Bosingwa, Park, Ferdinand and, well, name the rest of the squad here. I really dont think it would take much to turn the squad round in terms of heart and performance, but it would mean chucking a lot of expensive tat on the scrap heap and I dont think Hughes will do this as his own ego, and his contacts who these players represent, wouldnt allow it.

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        • Will M
          Silver Seat
          • May 2012
          • 2737

          #19
          But Barton was here when we failed to win away with Hughes, he was there when we got thrashed by Chelsea. And lest we forget he got sent off in the final day of the season, a game where we showed plenty of heart without him if you ask me.

          To say Joey Barton is just what we need, after slagging off the club is massively beyond me. Not like he himself didn't have games where he failed to perform is it?

          Players suffering a crisis of confidence, a Joey Barton "I'm only here for the money" type slagging everyone off isn't going to gain anyone's confidence.
          Last edited by Will M; 20-11-2012, 09:41 AM.

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          • spank the monkey
            Bronze Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 452

            #20
            if joeys the answer, are we really sure we're asking the right question?
            I don't care about morals 'cause the world's insane and we're all to blame anyway

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            • hoopsididitagain
              Apprentice
              • Jul 2012
              • 94

              #21
              yeah, good point Will, we didnt exactly press on with him in the team last season, though I do not think he was quite in the same mercenary mold as some of the tripe we have at the club now. Im not saying I would prefer him to a 'player X' who we might bring in or already have in the youth system unknown to us. But I'd rather have him I'm the dressing room than Park, Bosingwa or Cisse right now. But hughes will never have him back, i think if someone new was to come in and offer him a fresh start (yeah, because he's never had of them i know) he might be an ace in the pack.. but thinking like this is what its come down to sadly!

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              • Will M
                Silver Seat
                • May 2012
                • 2737

                #22
                As a player, I rate him. But he's had too many petulant tantrums now, not convinced he's the guy to improve a dressing room that's confidence is gone.

                I do think he was trying to work hard to improve his reputation after last May, and I'll readily admit Hughes screwed him over. But there was no need for him to #### us off, then praise Newcastle. A proper club! Well, when he said they were rubbish they did brilliantly and kicked on. This season he said they're the "shizzle" and they have under-performed. The guy is the kiss of death lol.

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                • Shania
                  C Club
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 23695

                  #23
                  Look at the article concerning the manager who ordered his new club to make the club canteen smaller. In that way all the players and staff had to interact better on a daily basis.

                  I wonder how these things are organized at our "Boutique-club"


                  Last edited by Shania; 20-11-2012, 10:33 AM.
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                  • Will M
                    Silver Seat
                    • May 2012
                    • 2737

                    #24
                    I'd think Solskjaer would be a massive gamble right now, and I can't see him wanting to come here either.

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                    • Dazzer1977
                      W12 Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4751

                      #25
                      Originally posted by West Acton
                      I have kept this to myself as dont need the grief of being an alleged ITK but I work with a family member of one of the first team squad.

                      They told me their is no team unity, the majority of players have a frosty relationship with Hughes, hes not approachable and they cant wait to see the back of him. They spoke warmly of TF

                      When I mentioned to them on friday that there were loads of rumours about him being sacked their face lit up and said X will be over the moon
                      Without this sounding like a dig a you fella, but its hardly rocket science to work that out after watching the game on Saturday. There was a least 7 players out there on Saturday who either didn't care or clearly don't want to work for our manager.

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                      • QPR Richard
                        Gold Seat
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 6489

                        #26
                        Stick Barton in a midfield three with Faurlin and Granero, give him the armband, and tell him to show he world how good he can be. We know he rates Ale really highly and I'm sure would be happy playing alongside Granero.
                        Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                        • Shania
                          C Club
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 23695

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Will M
                          I'd think Solskjaer would be a massive gamble right now, and I can't see him wanting to come here either.

                          It was mainly related to how one can solve fractions in the squad. The article was not a promo as such:=):
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                          • jmelanie
                            Gold Seat
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 7525

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Will M
                            I'd think Solskjaer would be a massive gamble right now, and I can't see him wanting to come here either.
                            I don't think Shania was thinking of Solskjaer coming to the club, but it was just some information on getting a team to work together.

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                            • gilly
                              Apprentice
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 148

                              #29
                              Originally posted by stanistheman
                              I saw this years ago when Trevor Francis ****ed off a number of players and they stopped performing until he got sacked.
                              The players went out for a champagne celebration the night it happened.

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                              • Shania
                                C Club
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 23695

                                #30
                                Originally posted by janemelanie
                                I don't think Shania was thinking of Solskjaer coming to the club, but it was just some information on getting a team to work together.
                                Correct. teambonding must be the key word from now on. Should how been sorted during the summer, but that´s hindsight.
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