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  • jras72
    Apprentice
    • Mar 2009
    • 57

    #121
    Question is guys, who paid for the film? Do we think certain people had influence over the editing?

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    • vblockranger
      • Mar 2009
      • 15218

      #122
      Originally posted by jras72
      Question is guys, who paid for the film? Do we think certain people had influence over the editing?
      im sure that Amit made sure he looked good otherwise it would never have been made in the first place and then sold in the club shop

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      • Rebel R's
        King of Pessimism
        • Mar 2009
        • 12266

        #123
        Really enjoyed the film,Flavio certainly came across as a joke( despite being right with his Gavin Mahon call),and poor old Paul Hart only got 1 minute of time on the show,but I suppose 1 minute per every month you last as QPR manager is fair!

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        • MYU
          Administrator
          • Mar 2009
          • 43466

          #124
          Originally posted by Rebel R's
          Really enjoyed the film,Flavio certainly came across as a joke( despite being right with his Gavin Mahon call),and poor old Paul Hart only got 1 minute of time on the show,but I suppose 1 minute per every month you last as QPR manager is fair!
          So where was Gigi De Canio?

          Poor bloke didn't even get a 1 second.

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          • RussRanger
            Unlucky Bloke
            • Apr 2009
            • 4055

            #125
            I just think we got promoted despite of Flavio not because of him. So a brilliant achievement by Neil and the players all things considered.

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            • Geng
              Silver Seat
              • Jul 2009
              • 1449

              #126
              Flavio wasn't 'right' with the Gavin Mahon call, the fact he scored was a total fluke and not some genius ploy of Flab's to bring on a defensive midfielder to grab the winner. Its a shame the film makes it look like he knew what he was on about there.

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              • LoftusRoadLad
                W12 Seat
                • Jan 2011
                • 19596

                #127
                Who was that old boy outside who kept saying "we love you Flav"...thought that was a larff while Flav was ranting that hes gonna sale the club !

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                • PeterG
                  Silver Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 1957

                  #128
                  "and love gianni or hate him his love for qpr was real you saw that at the end of the film when he cried hysterically at his dream been realised"

                  I would argue that the dream being realised was a monetary one, and i would probably be emotional if i had just won 1million plus ,thought it was being taken away and then just been told it wasnt

                  I am sure over the years some emotional attachment to the club developed but GP came to QPR for the main chance, set about trying to acheive that RUTHLESSLY, almost blew it, had a stroke of good fortune/genius and finally acheived his objective. amiable lovable teddy bear of a buffon he is not.
                  its New Era number 8 i tell thee, bring on the fireworks

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                  • Rsonist
                    Silver Seat
                    • May 2009
                    • 1335

                    #129
                    This is not to defend Flavio but I do wonder how differently many of us fans would behave if we were in charge and pouring our own money down the drain. Many of the criticisms he was coming out with were the exact same ones I was reading on here and elsewhere. Hard to disagree when he said "we've hired all the idiots"! - considering none of Dowie, Magilton, Sousa and Hart were ever going to get us promoted maybe we should be thankful he had an itchy trigger finger...

                    That said he was at his very worst towards the end effing and blinding about Warnock when we were stuttering over the finish line. Bit of perspective mate, bloody hell.

                    Loved the bit with him and Paladini discussing the Faurlin case. Saw right through Gianni's BS immediately...

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                    • dpmd
                      Silver Seat
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2251

                      #130
                      Originally posted by MYU
                      So where was Gigi De Canio?

                      Poor bloke didn't even get a 1 second.
                      I was wondering the same thing. Not even one mention of him.

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                      • Stanley
                        Guest
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 23693

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Rsonist
                        Hard to disagree when he said "we've hired all the idiots"! - considering none of Dowie, Magilton, Sousa and Hart were ever going to get us promoted maybe we should be thankful he had an itchy trigger finger...
                        ...or not so thankful at his ineptitude in hiring the wrong people to begin with?

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                        • blueboy
                          Bronze Seat
                          • May 2011
                          • 506

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Rsonist
                          This is not to defend Flavio but I do wonder how differently many of us fans would behave if we were in charge and pouring our own money down the drain. Many of the criticisms he was coming out with were the exact same ones I was reading on here and elsewhere. Hard to disagree when he said "we've hired all the idiots"! - considering none of Dowie, Magilton, Sousa and Hart were ever going to get us promoted maybe we should be thankful he had an itchy trigger finger...

                          That said he was at his very worst towards the end effing and blinding about Warnock when we were stuttering over the finish line. Bit of perspective mate, bloody hell.

                          Loved the bit with him and Paladini discussing the Faurlin case. Saw right through Gianni's BS immediately...


                          its hard to pass judement on Dowie,Sousa and Magilton seeing as they werent around that long..so how he can call them idiots is beyond me...also,ahrd for them to do their job when the owner is interfering every 5 mins..plus,dont forget,he was slagging Warnock off in the same way towards the end...i'm sure he would have given the same treatment to Fergie,Harry Rednapp or Wenger if we had them.
                          As for your quote that any of us fans would have behaved the same way,thats probably why none of us should be running a football club.Flavio should have known better,with his background in business,and F1,he should have been in a position to know how to behave

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                          • qprted
                            CCG
                            • May 2010
                            • 9639

                            #133
                            yes

                            yes i thought that if amit paid for the film,he would make himself look good,but dont forget amit couldnt have staged the neil warnock destruction job,so it was a trully amazing
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                            • qprted
                              CCG
                              • May 2010
                              • 9639

                              #134
                              having watched the 4 year plan 4 times

                              i think when you watch it the first time you cant help but thinking briatore is very funny ,his answer to everything is im gonna sack the coach
                              watching it the second time you cant help but feel sorry for gianni crying his eyes out
                              watching it the third time you cant help but be impressed with the elegance of amitt
                              but after watching it four times i think

                              POOR POOR POOR NEIL WARNOCK.HE GAVE US THE BEST ASTART IN 63 YEARS,HE DIDNT REALLY DESERVE THE SACKHE WAS A FANTASTIC GEEZER ALL THROUGH THE FILM
                              and my favourite quote from him was when a,it asked him for a ball park figure to guarantee promotion and warnock said four million

                              BUT YOU KNOW ME I CAN PROBABLEY GET BY WITH 500 000 POUNDS
                              what a star neil is if your reading this neil
                              WE LOVE YOU FOR ALWAYS,AND I HOPE WHEN YOUR MANAGEMENT CAREER IS OVER YOU WILL RETURN TO OUR CLUB IN SOME CAPACITY
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                              • Brian Wilson
                                Silver Seat
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 4400

                                #135
                                having watched it again last night I think none of

                                Sousa
                                Magilton
                                Harford
                                and possible Dowie

                                had a strong enough personality to survive that enviroment. The body language of them all told a story. Harford can hardly look at the camera in his press conference, Sousa appeared weak in his dealings with both Briartore and Paladini as well as his team introduction while Magilton appeared to be a man who did not believe in himself from the start.

                                You could probably throw Ainsworth and Hart into the mix as well though we didnt see enough of them to be sure.

                                Probably why Briartore hired these guys as he knew he could easily control them unlike Warnock

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