Taiwo

[80sCasual]

Taiwo is no longer at a big club and it is different.
The thing is, people state that certain players are good etc but look at the teams they are already playing in. I think a lot of players are moved on due to them not fitting in that team, take Onouha ok he was playing for a top 2 side, but does that make him an excellent defender, no otherwise he would be in the Man C team on a regular basis, we get him and no surprise when having to work hard he is nothing extra special.
Same can be said with Macheda, performed ok at Man U but then we're not Man U are we and you can see the difference when Refs too are not giving everything your way as used to when with them.
I could go on but I think you get the jist of what I'm saying.

[Connell10]

i thought he played quite well!

[Timmy the Doc]

Taiwo is no longer at a big club and it is different.
The thing is, people state that certain players are good etc but look at the teams they are already playing in. I think a lot of players are moved on due to them not fitting in that team, take Onouha ok he was playing for a top 2 side, but does that make him an excellent defender, no otherwise he would be in the Man C team on a regular basis, we get him and no surprise when having to work hard he is nothing extra special.
Same can be said with Macheda, performed ok at Man U but then we're not Man U are we and you can see the difference when Refs too are not giving everything your way as used to when with them.
I could go on but I think you get the jist of what I'm saying.

It's not this simple. It's also fitting the playing system, what kind of players manager want, have you self-confidence etc. Plenty of players who have been average in one top club, been excellent in another. Also players who have failed in a big club, been great in a smaller and vice versa.

[80sCasual]

It's not this simple. It's also fitting the playing system, what kind of players manager want, have you self-confidence etc. Plenty of players who have been average in one top club, been excellent in another. Also players who have failed in a big club, been great in a smaller and vice versa.

That's pretty much what i was trying to say, what works in one place doesn't mean it will work somewhere else and vice versa.

Unfortunately we always seem to get the raw end of the deal though.

[Timmy the Doc]

That's pretty much what i was trying to say, what works in one place doesn't mean it will work somewhere else and vice versa.

Unfortunately we always seem to get the raw end of the deal though.

Ok, sorry this misunderstanding.

[80sCasual]

Ok, sorry this misunderstanding.

No probs, think we all agree with each other what's going wrong and where to fix it in the end, just a pity MH can't.

[jmelanie]

Easy to say what needs fixing. Harder to actually achieve it.