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[Del]

You still bit**ing about Warnock
How about MH saying oh well you gotta take the positives, if that ain't making excuses i don't know what is
What f**kin positives from 2 games against teams lower than us that turned us over easily, but then that don't fit in with your hatred for the best manager at QPR since Venables

Touchy....

Where did i say i hated Warnock exactly...? Simply said he used to annoy me by constantly making excuses.

Also, just regarding your comments about MH, how is it making excuses by saying he will take the positives from the games.....? That's not making excuses for the defeat, so perhaps you should look up what it means.

And both those teams were lucky to beat us and we were all over them at the end of the games, even with 10 against Wolves, so to say they turned us over easilly is boll0x.

[loftlag]

Can't say I have noticed any change still weak at the back, give the ball away in m/field, lack punch up front ,Mackie changed the game not Hughe's, ok Hughes has only had 6 games befor Saturday but by now he should know his player's for his best side when you take into account our squad of 25 has a lot of dross player's in it

[QPRDave]

As I see it, "we" still tend to love Warnock. But at the end of his reign, he made so many mistakes despite of his hughe routine in the game that we "sadly" had to see him go.

Yeah fair enough shania it wasn't great come the last couple of months, but posters harping on about him making excuses gets to me, because when Hughes does it, then oh well he speaks well.
All managers try and take positives out of games, all managers praise the opposition, it's all part of this game they play.
Hughes is the manager now and has to live and die by results simple as!

[QPRDave]

Touchy....

Where did i say i hated Warnock exactly...? Simply said he used to annoy me by constantly making excuses.

Also, just regarding your comments about MH, how is it making excuses by saying he will take the positives from the games.....? That's not making excuses for the defeat, so perhaps you should look up what it means.

And both those teams were lucky to beat us and we were all over them at the end of the games, even with 10 against Wolves, so to say they turned us over easilly is boll0x.

So ok lets look at it this way Hughes has offered no explanation for the 1st half display v Blackburn which is just as bad.
Del i was way too touchy with my reply and apologise for that, but as i have just said in another post NW is gone and whatever happens now is down to MH, no need for Warnock's name to be brought up in connection with QPR.
Agree the end of his reign was bad not gonna say different.

[winalotto]

Hughes is in a totally different class to Warnock simply as that, with Warnock in charge we would have gone down 100% imo

[QPRDave]

I dunno.......
Is there something wrong in the dressing room? None of the players seem to be playing anywhere near to their potential and that alarms me. They are playing like as if their focus of attention is elsewhere, and don't seem to apply themselves wholeheartedly to the job.
Remember before the window closed, we were all salivating at the prospect of signing the players we eventually managed to sign; they were players 'other clubs would kill for' yet when they play for us they seem less than ordinary. I would say that our club this season has a gift for turning gold into lead, reverse Midas.
I really really hope MH can get to the bottom of this confidence/desire/ braveheart thing because they are not playing like they care.

Good post thought the same.

[Shania]

Yeah fair enough shania it wasn't great come the last couple of months, but posters harping on about him making excuses gets to me, because when Hughes does it, then oh well he speaks well.
All managers try and take positives out of games, all managers praise the opposition, it's all part of this game they play.
Hughes is the manager now and has to live and die by results simple as!

I see what you mean!!

[Del]

So ok lets look at it this way Hughes has offered no explanation for the 1st half display v Blackburn which is just as bad.
Del i was way too touchy with my reply and apologise for that, but as i have just said in another post NW is gone and whatever happens now is down to MH, no need for Warnock's name to be brought up in connection with QPR.
Agree the end of his reign was bad not gonna say different.

Fair play Dave. I agree we need to move on from NW and was just responding to a comment made about him, which i felt relevant to the flipside commented about MH. No agenda whatsoever, just think it was Neils one main failing for me. Not so much that he made excuses, but the fact that on some occasions they were not the right course of action, and as a result gave the players excuses, who on some occasions were a disgrace and shouldn't hide behid excuses.

I think you are being a bit harsh on MH though. I haven't heard hm make excuses. He lambasted the first half performance on Saturday, rightly so. To have offered an explanation would probably be seen to be making excuses which he didn't try to do, he said it was unacceptable. That said, if the 2nd half performance was a result of his HT grilling it bodes well as he got a massive reaction.

[QPRDave]

Yeah i think i'm like everybody else i know just so annoyed with the last 2 results.
The main thing i want regarding the Rs is for us to stay up, and can't deny when MH was appointed i was over the moon, and seeing the signings thought it would be plain sailing.
F**k knows why, i know what they're like always have been.
Anyway apologies again and will count to 10 before posting in future

[Del]

Yeah i think i'm like everybody else i know just so annoyed with the last 2 results.
The main thing i want regarding the Rs is for us to stay up, and can't deny when MH was appointed i was over the moon, and seeing the signings thought it would be plain sailing.
F**k knows why, i know what they're like always have been.
Anyway apologies again and will count to 10 before posting in future

Mate we don't do things easilly, we all know that.

I think Cisse has created a massive spanner in MH's thinking and plans.

It's like buying a Ferrari to get somewhere quicker and then your misses puts diesel in the thing meaning you can;t use it and have to revert back to the Astra..... Time to bang your head against a brick wall.

[Stanley]

I haven't heard hm make excuses. He lambasted the first half performance on Saturday, rightly so. To have offered an explanation would probably be seen to be making excuses which he didn't try to do, he said it was unacceptable. That said, if the 2nd half performance was a result of his HT grilling it bodes well as he got a massive reaction.

This and is what I was trying to convey in the OP.

So ok lets look at it this way Hughes has offered no explanation for the 1st half display v Blackburn which is just as bad.

He offered no explanation because there simply wasn't one. He was brutally honest about that and isn't the type to blindly defend his players when there is no defence. He said that the 1st half performance was totally unacceptable, but without singling out individual players' faults which is a good thing IMO.

[QPRDave]

Mate we don't do things easilly, we all know that.

I think Cisse has created a massive spanner in MH's thinking and plans.

It's like buying a Ferrari to get somewhere quicker and then your misses puts diesel in the thing meaning you can;t use it and have to revert back to the Astra..... Time to bang your head against a brick wall.

like it!

[loftlag]

For christ sake trhis talk of N W making excuses that was for his player's in puiblic .
Is anybody naive enough to think he didnt tear the Bo//ox off the player's in the privacy of the dressing room