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  • HammersmithR
    Gold Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 5537

    #16
    Most of the workers who are at the Olympic site are EU workers from East European countries who are fully entitled to work in this country. It's the law of the land.

    Same as if we wanted to work in other EU countries.
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    • SpankwiR
      Voted Most Handsome Fan 2010, 2011 and 2012
      • Apr 2009
      • 3254

      #17
      Same as if we wanted to work in other EU countries.

      Errr no thanks.

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      • qblockoompah
        Silver Seat
        • Apr 2009
        • 3587

        #18
        Originally posted by HammersmithR
        Most of the workers who are at the Olympic site are EU workers from East European countries who are fully entitled to work in this country. It's the law of the land.

        Same as if we wanted to work in other EU countries.
        So you think it's right that the Olympics was trumpeted as British jobs for British workers, yet British made up less than 20% of the workforce?

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        • rangerforevereastcote
          Silver Seat
          • Apr 2011
          • 4144

          #19
          Originally posted by SpankwiR
          Sorry! Is this a train line or an airport they are building?

          How noisy and unsightly is a train? I actually quite like seeing trains race across our countryside.

          Some of those posh tw@ts in the Chalfonts want to try living next door to Heathrow.
          you live in the coutry for tranquility a train rattling through disturbs it, talk of it happening around ruislip an end date of some like 2026, 14 years of disruption trucks etc

          house prices also get affected , talking about it coming through ruislip and surrounding areas, these houses people would have had to take out huge mortgages to get these propertys and people are going to see their values drop

          at the end of the day why do we need another station going to birmingham?

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          • rangerforevereastcote
            Silver Seat
            • Apr 2011
            • 4144

            #20
            Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
            you live in the coutry for tranquility a train rattling through disturbs it, talk of it happening around ruislip an end date of some like 2026, 14 years of disruption trucks etc

            house prices also get affected , talking about it coming through ruislip and surrounding areas, these houses people would have had to take out huge mortgages to get these propertys and people are going to see their values drop

            at the end of the day why do we need another station going to birmingham?
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            Last edited by rangerforevereastcote; 12-01-2012, 09:34 AM. Reason: wrong post

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            • PeterG
              Silver Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 1957

              #21
              London is overcrowded and overpriced. why spend so much money for something that will encourage more commuting to London

              Would it not be better to spend the 32 billion on regional development away from london

              personally i think it would have been much better spent on a new motorway between coventry and Manchester to releive the M6 and M1 and it would benefit far more people and cause much less disruption
              its New Era number 8 i tell thee, bring on the fireworks

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              • Olly
                Gold Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 6000

                #22
                I'd rather we'd kept this.

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                • Shania
                  C Club
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 23699

                  #23
                  Originally posted by paulmason
                  This is a complete white elephant. It will blight the landscape and ruin the lives of people for years while its being constructed and all to save 20 minutes from London to Birmingham.

                  No government construction project has ever come near to being completed on time or on budget and the funny thing is California are having the exact same discussion now and here is a snippet regarding their costs - "Cost. Originally, voters were told the project would cost $33 billion, with state government, federal government and private enterprise sharing the cost roughly equally. New projections put the price tag at $98 billion, with no accurate assessment of how much each entity would pay"

                  If this goes ahead, it will go down as one of the most costliest mistakes ever.


                  These are problems we are discussing regularly in Norway as well!!
                  Last edited by Shania; 12-01-2012, 11:14 AM.
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                  • robith
                    Apprentice
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 248

                    #24
                    Originally posted by paulmason
                    No government construction project has ever come near to being completed on time or on budget
                    Funny that, high speed 1 come in on time and under budget
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                    • HammersmithR
                      Gold Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5537

                      #25
                      And the Olympics!

                      British job cannot always be just for British people. We live in a free market economy. We are a part of the EU so EU citizens are fully entitled to work here. It's good for the consumer as it keeps prices low.
                      First game: Arsenal vs Queen's Park Rangers at Highbury, Saturday 17th November 1984.

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                      • stanistheman
                        Platinum Seat
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 11151

                        #26
                        Originally posted by paulmason
                        This is a complete white elephant. It will blight the landscape and ruin the lives of people for years while its being constructed and all to save 20 minutes from London to Birmingham.

                        No government construction project has ever come near to being completed on time or on budget and the funny thing is California are having the exact same discussion now and here is a snippet regarding their costs - "Cost. Originally, voters were told the project would cost $33 billion, with state government, federal government and private enterprise sharing the cost roughly equally. New projections put the price tag at $98 billion, with no accurate assessment of how much each entity would pay"

                        If this goes ahead, it will go down as one of the most costliest mistakes ever.
                        I agree, the chances of this coming in on budget are extremely unlikely and the estimante of how many people will use the service is way too high. It will be unaffordable to many aand people are not very likely to need to commute between the 2 cities for face to face meetings in 2032. The way technology is improving people will be able to hold video conferences on their smartphones via some sort of Skype connection.

                        They would be better of investing in improving the current stations, trains and tracks and on technology to cut the need for so much travel.

                        However, if it does go through it could be great for QPR (if train tickets were cheap) as QPR could gain a lot of new fans (to watch a successful side) who will live miles away from London as it wont take long to get to the ground from the Midlands! QPR could be the new Man Utd (Okay, it's a fantasy).

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                        • robloft
                          Bronze Seat
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 780

                          #27
                          Originally posted by qblockoompah
                          So sick of people moaning when governments try to develop something in this country that badly needs addressing, and while they do it will create alot of jobs!!!
                          The reason that I'm against it is that it will cost money that we as a country just do not have!!!!!!

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                          • Gtleighsr3
                            CCG
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 23569

                            #28
                            great idea!what shite company going to run it though,lol
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                            • qblockoompah
                              Silver Seat
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 3587

                              #29
                              Originally posted by HammersmithR
                              And the Olympics!

                              British job cannot always be just for British people. We live in a free market economy. We are a part of the EU so EU citizens are fully entitled to work here. It's good for the consumer as it keeps prices low.
                              What you work as?

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                              • superhoop67
                                Silver Seat
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 3782

                                #30
                                Originally posted by qblockoompah
                                Can see what you're saying mate, if it was my back garden id be fuming, naturally. But whatvi mean is 90% of those creating about it are not directly affected by it, thy just wanna use it as a stick to beat the powers that be with. Can only be a positive if you ask me. Although a good percentage of the work will go to foreigners, that's what really winds me up. Same with Olympics jobs and the westfields, comfortably 75% foreign labour on them sites.
                                the same people to moan about it ,couldn't wait to tear down the M40 flyover or use Terminal5 , NIMBY's
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