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  • Mr Lofty
    Bronze Seat
    • Mar 2009
    • 317

    #61
    Originally posted by rangerforevereastcote
    Also one final point wasn't aware I could influence so many vulnerable posters on this board . Maybe I should run for prime minister
    One other question assuming that not all the 5.5k fans at mk today don't read this site
    How come fans started singing "warnock sort it out" " premiership were having a laugh" and booed during and after

    If I could raise that rabble I'm obviously more influential then I realised
    Dont get carried away. I didnt say 'Many'. Fans are singing (as I would of had I have gone) is what fans do when they are are frustrated watching dross. We all should know as we have done it under about 8 managers in the last few years, many times. Warnock sort it out is a bit different to 'Warnock out' which I am sure would have been music to your ears!

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    • SteveQPR1975
      Silver Seat
      • Apr 2011
      • 2762

      #62
      I always shout Warnock sort it out !
      But he never listens
      R's

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      • Olly
        Gold Seat
        • Mar 2009
        • 6000

        #63
        The team don't know what 442 is anyway.

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        • Mr Lofty
          Bronze Seat
          • Mar 2009
          • 317

          #64
          Blimey. Why can things just go well for QPR. Ever since Gerry left for Spuds it has been pretty much a nightmare. Ok, a few good days out etc but generally I have to say it is just like supporting England, crap. Always let you down, usually not when you are not expecting it.

          It is actually quite horrible being a QPR fan at the moment. I have to say, as usual.

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          • SeanInOz
            Bronze Seat
            • Mar 2009
            • 261

            #65
            I am still for Warnock and for the very reasons posters like Stainrod and Quaz state.

            For a club in our position IF there was to be a change of Manager then we bring in someone stronger than what we have, same principle as when we bring in a new player to improve the squad - has to be better than what we have. Thats how we grow.

            Names like Di Canio, Poyet, Clarke or Eddie Howe just present on par with signing Beckford to be our main striker!

            If there is to be a managerial change, then it should:

            - occur after the Blackburn away game when we are then on a 2 week break
            - be a person stronger than what we have we proven experience in the Premiership.

            IF (and this is a big IF as im expecting us to go on a run after we have strengthened the squad in January) there did need to be a change I would suggest Rafael BENITEZ who is a quality manager, unemployed and keen to manage in the premiership again.



            Sean In Oz

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            • SeanInOz
              Bronze Seat
              • Mar 2009
              • 261

              #66
              Thought of what I think Warnock needs to do to get the team back on track:

              - sign payers in January who are better than what we have in order to improve the squad;
              - I do think SWP plays his best Right Wing;
              - I think we need a LW brought in, n short term I think Smith should be given that role ahead of Mackie who is only comfortable on the right side.

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              • TBLOCKRANGER
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2011
                • 2909

                #67
                I'm still IWWT brigade.

                I accept formations and substitutions have appeared bizarre but just think the core problem is that our squad is still sh!t as it has been over the last 15 yrs. All that has changed is that we have somehow found ourselves in the premiership.

                Last year our squad was probably at best 7th or 8th best in the championship, we got promoted with journeymen and no real striker. Individual brilliance and gritty determination got us over the threshold. We've over achieved largely due to NW, in summer he tried to sign players that could add premiership stability but on the whole they have failed. Regardless of if you play one or two upfront, no one would have expected DJ and Both to be so poor, incapable of physically moving. SWP has glimpses of quality but you can understand why big teams hes played for are frustrated by him. Joeys been inconsistent and the defence has leaked. If at least 2 of those four hit the road running and were on fire we wouldn't be in the trouble we are, I've been horrified with the input. We've had to rely on AF, AT and HH but they need support.

                Just think we have over achieved and we're now paying for it. Weve had tinsel town success without any foundations being built like the boom and bust of the economy, we thought we were living the dream but we werent as comfortable as we all thought we were. We are a team in transition more than any other team in the premiership, we need at least 5 new players in our starting XI and 4 further squad players.

                NW got us up against the odds, no one seriously thought when renewing their s/t in summer 2010 that we would be champions a year later, for most we expected another year of championship mediocrity. NW got us up and apart
                from a week in summer where he was allowed to sign players, he's basically had to simply get on with it. I just think give him 15 to 20m to spend to finish the job of perennial championship no hopers to premiership stability. Apart
                from the fact he deserves the chance, just think other named managers generally do well at established premiership clubs, we are not yet in that boat, and just think with funds we can turn it round.

                My concern is whether he's lost the dressing room and also whether serious funds are actually available.
                Last edited by TBLOCKRANGER; 08-01-2012, 02:04 AM.

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                • Mr Lofty
                  Bronze Seat
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 317

                  #68
                  Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER
                  I'm still IWWT brigade.

                  I accept formations and substitutions have appeared bizarre but just think the core problem is that our squad is still sh!t as it has been over the last 15 yrs. All that has changed is that we have somehow found ourselves in the premiership.

                  Last year our squad was probably at best 7th or 8th best in the championship, we got promoted with journeymen and no real striker. Individual brilliance and gritty determination got us over the threshold. We've over achieved largely due to NW, in summer he tried to sign players that could add premiership stability but on the whole they have failed. Regardless of if you play one or two upfront, no one would have expected DJ and Both to be so poor, incapable of physically moving. SWP has glimpses of quality but you can understand why big teams hes played for are frustrated by him. Joeys been inconsistent and the defence has leaked. If at least 2 of those four hit the road running and were on fire we wouldn't be in the trouble we are, I've been horrified with the input. We've had to rely on AF, AT and HH but they need support.

                  Just think we have over achieved and we're now paying for it. Weve had tinsel town success without any foundations being built like the boom and bust of the economy, we thought we were living the dream but we werent as comfortable as we all thought we were. We are a team in transition more than any other team in the premiership, we need at least 5 new players in our starting XI and 4 further squad players.

                  NW got us up against the odds, no one seriously thought when renewing their s/t in summer 2010 that we would be champions a year later, for most we expected another year of championship mediocrity. NW got us up and apart
                  from a week in summer where he was allowed to sign players, he's basically had to simply get on with it. I just think give him 15 to 20m to spend to finish the job of perennial championship no hopers to premiership stability. Apart
                  from the fact he deserves the chance, just think other named managers generally do well at established premiership clubs, we are not yet in that boat, and just think with funds we can turn it round.

                  My concern is whether he's lost the dressing room and also whether serious funds are actually available.
                  Very well put and I cannot see any argument against this.

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                  • Dale
                    Silver Seat
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2232

                    #69
                    Good post TBLOCK

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                    • qprbrisbanedivision
                      Silver Seat
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1338

                      #70
                      Spot on mate....so whats the solution?

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                      • rangerforevereastcote
                        Silver Seat
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 4144

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Mr Lofty
                        Very well put and I cannot see any argument against this.
                        It was very well put, see I dont disagree with the circumstances my
                        Point being we got What we got since close of last window , we can all accept that , I just believe there were more available to us through some basics that we have not applied through season so far
                        No need to list all but a couple being 1 up top at home vs lesser teams????
                        Jamie mackie before swp on right?
                        Poor substitutions pretty much every game

                        There are plenty more , this is nothing to do
                        With circumstance but instead pure lack of awareness of what the issues are by the Management team

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                        • qblockoompah
                          Silver Seat
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 3587

                          #72
                          You can't argue with TBLOCK, best post I've read on here. Neil has to be backed properly! And also eastcote you keep saying Neil ha lost the players. He hast lost the players, it is purely your opinion and trying to put 2 and 2 together to make yourself right.

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                          • qblockoompah
                            Silver Seat
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 3587

                            #73
                            We had two up top yesterday eastcote, but the players were shite, can't blame warnock for that!!

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                            • rangerforevereastcote
                              Silver Seat
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 4144

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Mr Lofty
                              Dont get carried away. I didnt say 'Many'. Fans are singing (as I would of had I have gone) is what fans do when they are are frustrated watching dross. We all should know as we have done it under about 8 managers in the last few years, many times. Warnock sort it out is a bit different to 'Warnock out' which I am sure would have been music to your ears!
                              Just a quick point your criticising me
                              For pointing out what's wrong with the game etc today yet you weren't there?

                              Maybe if you were you would have a diff opinion

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                              • rangerforevereastcote
                                Silver Seat
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 4144

                                #75
                                Originally posted by qblockoompah
                                We had two up top yesterday eastcote, but the players were shite, can't blame warnock for that!!
                                First half mate , with no service we went 1 up top second half

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