Remembering Ray Jones ...If we ever wanted to dedicate a win

[ahR]

Hmm you're right..

I's a weird one, had he survived the crash he'd probably still be inside for causing death by dangerous driving. If that Argyle goalie had died in his crash would people in Plymouth want him remembered at every big occasion? We've all been #### behind the wheel though I guess and young lads in cars do often show off.

It's a huge issue and one that has already been debated over and over I just think that we should stop being a misty eyed and not keep trawling this up all the time.. I mean poor old Kiyan Prince was innocent victim from what I can gather but he is not linked to every bit of R's success in the same way as RJ.. still, probably because he hadn't yet played 1st team football due to his age..

[DanMcGeoghan]

Sorry mate totally un-necessary attempt to pull at the heart strings. A win against Cardiff should be dedicated to QPR's long suffering fans with a return to top flight football.

Kinda with you on this as well, this one is for the fans, who have been there through thick and thin.

All though the passing of Ray was a sad moment, I hate to say it, but it was his carelessness behind the wheel of a car that also took the lives of two other young lads.

[stainrodisalegend]

No interest in getting involved in the personal arguments on this thread but as to the main point I too find all this constant dredging up of Ray Jones and the "lets all do it for Ray" stuff really mawkish and overdone. Yes a lot of people might reflect back on their youth and say "there but for the grace of god would have gone I" but he was out getting drunk on a Friday night, showing off, with fatal consequences, rather than acting like the professional highly paid sportsman he was meant to be. I'm really sorry he -and perhaps even more so - innocent victims died, but I'm not going to bow down and pray at the temple of Ray Jones every time we have a big match. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but time to move on fellas.

[W12_Ranger]

I's a weird one, had he survived the crash he'd probably still be inside for causing death by dangerous driving. If that Argyle goalie had died in his crash would people in Plymouth want him remembered at every big occasion? We've all been #### behind the wheel though I guess and young lads in cars do often show off.

I agree with this, my understanding is that it was a head on collision with a bus so he might have been on the wrong side of the road as well. Imagine he collided with a motor carrying a young family on board instead of a bus.

No interest in getting involved in the personal arguments on this thread but as to the main point I too find all this constant dredging up of Ray Jones and the "lets all do it for Ray" stuff really mawkish and overdone. Yes a lot of people might reflect back on their youth and say "there but for the grace of god would have gone I" but he was out getting drunk on a Friday night, showing off, with fatal consequences, rather than acting like the professional highly paid sportsman he was meant to be. I'm really sorry he -and perhaps even more so - innocent victims died, but I'm not going to bow down and pray at the temple of Ray Jones every time we have a big match. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but time to move on fellas.

Doesn't sound harsh at all, its the truth and I really feel some fans just post stuff for the sake of wanting to appear sensitive to others.

[W12_Ranger]

Back from the Book club already w12?

Back from your Mum's more like

[Ginger Ninja]

w12 ranger...please dont respond to eastcote mate, this is not the time to be arguing and eastcote is obviously trolling. lets look forward to tomorrow, which i think is QPR's biggest game since the 80s.
if this win is to be dedicated to anyone, apart from the fans, it should be jamie mackie. he has been a revelation for us this season and more than played his part, and its a shame he cant play tomorrow. respect to RJ and KP, they will obviously be in peoples thoughts, but its time to move on now. harsh but true.

[Ginger Ninja]

not trolling whatsoever, however had you taken the time and obtained a slight snapshot of w12's last 50 odd posts it would be clear exactly who's trolling

I am only responding in the same pathetic manner w12 has been doing since I joined

can we draw a line under this pathetic argument between you and w12 then? there are bigger, more important things going on. this time tomorrow QPR could be promoted, lets not argue eh?

[W12_Ranger]

not trolling whatsoever, however had you taken the time and obtained a slight snapshot of w12's last 50 odd posts it would be clear exactly who's trolling

I am only responding in the same pathetic manner w12 has been doing since I joined

Rejoined

You have barely made any sort of contribution to this messageboard other than to deny who you really are. Same thick as **** HA9, armed with threats, emoticons and an inability to make a worthwhile contribution to any debate.

[Ginger Ninja]

Rejoined

You have barely made any sort of contribution to this messageboard other than to deny who you really are. Same thick as **** HA9, armed with threats, emoticons and an inability to make a worthwhile contribution to any debate.

come on mate lets enjoy the good times yeah?

[Mublock]

if this was a thread between pete and someone else the else would have been banned.....pathetic arguments from behind the safety of a computer screen...grow up you 2 as you sound like a couple of 5 yr olds...

[rangerforevereastcote]

w12 ranger...please dont respond to eastcote mate, this is not the time to be arguing and eastcote is obviously trolling. lets look forward to tomorrow, which i think is QPR's biggest game since the 80s.
if this win is to be dedicated to anyone, apart from the fans, it should be jamie mackie. he has been a revelation for us this season and more than played his part, and its a shame he cant play tomorrow. respect to RJ and KP, they will obviously be in peoples thoughts, but its time to move on now. harsh but true.

mate completely agree if dedicated to anyone but the fans its jamie mackie, thnk this whole rj thing everytime is a bit embaressing,