Supporters That Live Abroad

[Spencer]

Lol MYU - If my pet hamster that has one eye, deaf and no computer skills and no previous knowledge of QPR football club, had he logged onto this thread - he would have come to same conclusion.So - keep away from the TV times - you are not mystic meg.

This is petes board and is suppose that means he can almost write what he pleases and veto the same.People have issue's with pete on other sites and i suppose on this site.From my perspective - this issue is the only one that really concerns me.

I came across Pete on the old messagaeboard - and one of his "soap Box" topics - was - QPR fans...are they arent they should they etc.The only problem I have with QPR fans - or indeed any football fans, is when they reach a Cup Final - Play off etc....the average 10-15k swells into 30 K.

I remember the season when QPR reached the Playoff final V Cardiff.That season, despite being in the third tier of football, I was a season ticket holder and went to nearly ever home game that season.For one reason or another - i failed to get ticket for final.Yet - I knew of a handfull of QPR fans, that admitted to me - they handt been for 2-3 years - but got ticket just for that final.Indeed them there fans - and they are at every club...pisz me off.
If those fans attended more games throughout the season, then maybe the likes of Stockport etc....maybe they wouldnt have financial problems(I dont know how attendances affect the finances of a club - but it must help!!)

I have spoken to quite a few ardent fans of QPR and other clubs, who appear to share same view as me(Only the feedback i have heard) they dont put themselves on a pedestal just because they go to more matches - just privilaged(If you can call it that - ) that they can attend so many games.
The strange thing about fans - is how differently they can see the same match.I have seen reports from the same game that says that delaney was good crap indifferent...by 3 different fans.Does this mean that they have more knowledge than fans that cannot attend every game?

Recently - i met a guy from USA .Now have have followed...and become an official fans of Oakland raiders.Purchased merchandise over the internet - seen most games via Channle 4 5 internet dvds....study form watch Rota systems etc....but have not attended I game yet.However the Guy from USA - was amazed(he was also a Raiders fan)at how much i knew aboout club, history logistics of game etc.He certainly didnt put me down but in fact was pleased that people far and abroad were spreading the name of his beloved team.

I think we have to be careful about alienating fans near far and abroad - just because of where they sit, or geographical situated.Can they have input about club? Of course - the internet is now a powerfull tool.

Pete may say that this is not the reason for this post - but in my opinion it stirs up bad feelings.

However - you you argue its good spin as more people visit his site - and viewing figures are up.

[IsleworthRanger]

I fear I know what direction where this thread will head already

Just call me Mystic Ranger

[RamseyR]

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Maybe we should clarify it even further and say that anybody sitting in South Africa Road has a more valid opinion than say someone in Q block since the view is better and they are better able to analyse the game.

[haqpr1963]

Personally I think this is a nasty little thread attempting to dig out a particular poster.

Maybe we should clarify it even further and say that anybody sitting in South Africa Road has a more valid opinion than say someone in Q block since the view is better and they are better able to analyse the game.

Especially if they are not banging a drum and singing songs about northerners being inbred.

Good points. Does this mean that if you have an obstructed view then you can only have an opinion on that part of the pitch you can easily see?

[RamseyR]

Regardless of our individual circumstances, we are all supporters. Some are just more active than others, on either a permanent or intermittent basis.

Why look for a problem, where one does not exist?

[NewCrossHoop]

Personally I think this is a nasty little thread attempting to dig out a particular poster.

Maybe we should clarify it even further and say that anybody sitting in South Africa Road has a more valid opinion than say someone in Q block since the view is better and they are better able to analyse the game.

Especially if they are not banging a drum and singing songs about northerners being inbred.

[haqpr1963]

I think to be a true fan or supporter you must go to every single match home and away.You should attend every fans meeting and end of season functions(ala POTY)

Then the importance of that fan should be based on match appearances.The fan that can only be bothered to go to the odd match here or there, due ill health, working , playing football at reasonable level or just cannot afford to go to matches,should really have no input whatsoever in commenting on how QPR are playing and what direction they should be heading,

Fans(phhh) that live abroad shouldnt even have any input whatsover. They chose to leave this country and have better life elsewhere, why should have have any interest in what happens back at thir old home.How dare they even try to follow or have ideas about QPR.Whats worse is they are spreading the name of QPR to other "foreign supporters" We dont need them go away .

We need 100% commited fans only.We all know that fans that attend all games are the most knowledgeable about a> Footbal b> QPR

And if you follow from the states - you should be ashamed.

Just think how bad it is going to be when all these new fans from Dubai and the far east get involved. :horror:

Damn Flavio and his whole global brand idea, doesn't he realise he is destroying it for us loyal fans?

(PS can I suggest you turn the sarcasm down a bit. It is going to go right over the heads of some on here.)

[Spencer]

I think to be a true fan or supporter you must go to every single match home and away.You should attend every fans meeting and end of season functions(ala POTY)

Then the importance of that fan should be based on match appearances.The fan that can only be bothered to go to the odd match here or there, due ill health, working , playing football at reasonable level or just cannot afford to go to matches,should really have no input whatsoever in commenting on how QPR are playing and what direction they should be heading,

Fans(phhh) that live abroad shouldnt even have any input whatsover. They chose to leave this country and have better life elsewhere, why should have have any interest in what happens back at thir old home.How dare they even try to follow or have ideas about QPR.Whats worse is they are spreading the name of QPR to other "foreign supporters" We dont need them go away .

We need 100% commited fans only.We all know that fans that attend all games are the most knowledgeable about a> Footbal b> QPR

And if you follow from the states - you should be ashamed.

[SmartRs]

lol...absolute rubbish......some people have to do it through the media.....so if i buy the home & away shirts each season...get my mate to get me a program every match this still classes me as a follower...but i still spend as much as someone who goes to 2 games a season but you say they are a supporter.....oh dear......

Well, we can agree to disagree on this. I was just putting my view across and I think your view is rubbish too. How does owning a QPR shirt or a program make you knowledgeable on how the team plays? Your views are made by what others say, not what you have seen for yourself. In other words, you have nothing original to say but have to rely on what others have seen and you formulate your own opinions from that.

In the 90's lived in the US for 2 years but came back to the UK every month and tried to make it coincide with a QPR home game. I saw approx 10 home games each season and still retained my season ticket (my Dad used it when I couldn't). That's what I call supporting the club.

As I said at the start, we can agree to disagree on this. Thats what a message board is about.

However, I do think this thread was designed to wind up Report more than anything else.

[qprjim]

I've been "following" for 2 years, now--stuck in a ruthless c..try called America for another year. I was born here, however, and I won't try to defend my interests or loyalties--what's the point?

There are wonderful analysts, and there are those who have first hand accounts...and they aren't necessarily the same people.

But starting to categorize, and "divide", those of us creates an "us and them" mentality--dangerously elitist, or too much like kids fighting over their
toys.

Agree and sadly this attitude exists in a lot of the posters who regulary attend matches.

[QPRMendoza]

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Dear oh dear IMO another clanger of a thread Pete. I am currently in London, I've been done to HQ last week even in spite of the fact that there is not much going on, to revisit a place very close to my heart - a team I've supported for over 25 years now. To suggest that my opinion is worth less than other supporters smacks of egoism/self importance. If you want to have a dig at Report that is fine - but be a bit more honest and not disguise it (badly) in a thread such as this. If you are having a dig at a wider group of supporters who live overseas perceived as troublemakers then perhaps if you answered questions posed to you then there would be less animosity on the site/directed at you.

A deeply disturbing thread.

:bad_egg:

PS Not that I expect a reply from you Pete - you seem to have a way of avoiding certain posts!

[nuffieldranger]

I've been "following" for 2 years, now--stuck in a ruthless c..try called America for another year. I was born here, however, and I won't try to defend my interests or loyalties--what's the point?

There are wonderful analysts, and there are those who have first hand accounts...and they aren't necessarily the same people.

But starting to categorize, and "divide", those of us creates an "us and them" mentality--dangerously elitist, or too much like kids fighting over their toys.

Have to agree

There does seem to be a divide at the moment.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

I think it's great that we have people living abroad who support QPR.
Obviously, they'll have their opinions on all things QPR just like the rest of us, I don't see any problem with that.

You're not a supporter if you live abroad. You're a follower.

To be a supporter, I think you have to go to matches, even if it's only once or twice a season. Following via TV or the Internet isn't the same.

lol...absolute rubbish......some people have to do it through the media.....so if i buy the home & away shirts each season...get my mate to get me a program every match this still classes me as a follower...but i still spend as much as someone who goes to 2 games a season but you say they are a supporter.....oh dear......

[Cian]

I've been "following" for 2 years, now--stuck in a ruthless c..try called America for another year. I was born here, however, and I won't try to defend my interests or loyalties--what's the point?

There are wonderful analysts, and there are those who have first hand accounts...and they aren't necessarily the same people.

But starting to categorize, and "divide", those of us creates an "us and them" mentality--dangerously elitist, or too much like kids fighting over their toys.