akutrs article mentioned last week in full..Merged Thread

[Stedders]

Pete - was the training ground closed for the reasons accused, or not? Smple yes or no. I will then move on. You know I am not someone who goes on about Palladini etc, and that I am a genuine QPR fan, but I do like to know a straight answer. I am not especially bothered but would like to know rather than people avoid questions...

[Paladinooo]

Pete, you've lost all credibility.

[qblockpete]

You lost it years ago

[qblockpete]

Stredders, to me it doesn't matter.

I am pretty sure it wasn't and can remember the confusion, but it was pretty soon after the players came back from Italy.

Sure it doesn't particualrly bother Bircham either, as on principle he is working at the club

[Nodge70]

It's alright if you stick to main drag,but the side streets are very dangerous..a mugger's paradise.

I was there for a wedding a couple of years back. Absolutely fine if you know the right people. The street pizza's are immense.

[Stedders]

Fair enough. I am not taking 'sides' etc, I have no interest in all that. I think everybody makes mistakes or bad judgement calls, and that includes Palladini, WATRB, AKUTR's, Indy R's, and the individuals involved with them. I just hope the next ten years is a much happier, transparent time.

[SpankwiR]

This whole debate seems a bit pointless now. On one hand you've got a group of supporters who we all know have supported QPR and produced AKUTR's for donkeys years. On the other side we have what seems to be the new pretenders in Pete and WATRB (which incidentally seems to be a very successful website and format). There is absolutely NO point in getting involved in an argument about who has supported QPR the longest or who makes the most noise as both sides are always going to preach there version of the facts. The one thing I'm sure of is I've seen both parties at QPR and from what I can see both support and care a lot about the club. What's the point in pickering about lies or mistakes that have been made in the past and who is responsible for the spin campaign that went with it. The fact remains QPR are currently in one of the best positions going in to next season I can remember and I for one will be getting my season ticket and supporting this club regardless. I WILL however reconsider buying fanzines or reading messageboards if all people are going to do is squabble about who is the 'REAL' preacher of the truth.

[qblockpete]

Can I just add this article is NOT written by Dave Thomas, but a contributor to the AKUTR's.

[themodfather]

a good read....for me sums up the paranoia at the club, and this was a few yrs ago
i hope we have moved on as a club and fanbase?
the place seems happier now....
i suppose the club had to deny the gates were not locked, or else panic spreads and any new investors walk away...who were the electrical sponsors we had, they left...."j and d"??

with facebook, mbs,phones...info gets spread so fast...the offy site is so slow to update, news has been and gone while they update.

[brightonr]

This whole debate seems a bit pointless now. On one hand you've got a group of supporters who we all know have supported QPR and produced AKUTR's for donkeys years. On the other side we have what seems to be the new pretenders in Pete and WATRB (which incidentally seems to be a very successful website and format). There is absolutely NO point in getting involved in an argument about who has supported QPR the longest or who makes the most noise as both sides are always going to preach there version of the facts. The one thing I'm sure of is I've seen both parties at QPR and from what I can see both support and care a lot about the club. What's the point in pickering about lies or mistakes that have been made in the past and who is responsible for the spin campaign that went with it. The fact remains QPR are currently in one of the best positions going in to next season I can remember and I for one will be getting my season ticket and supporting this club regardless. I WILL however reconsider buying fanzines or reading messageboards if all people are going to do is squabble about who is the 'REAL' preacher of the truth.

Well said mate.

Unfortunately, some people have nothing better to do than moan about things which, judging by their comments and unfounded accusations, they know very little or nothing about.

[coneysboots]

This whole debate seems a bit pointless now. On one hand you've got a group of supporters who we all know have supported QPR and produced AKUTR's for donkeys years. On the other side we have what seems to be the new pretenders in Pete and WATRB (which incidentally seems to be a very successful website and format). There is absolutely NO point in getting involved in an argument about who has supported QPR the longest or who makes the most noise as both sides are always going to preach there version of the facts. The one thing I'm sure of is I've seen both parties at QPR and from what I can see both support and care a lot about the club. What's the point in pickering about lies or mistakes that have been made in the past and who is responsible for the spin campaign that went with it. The fact remains QPR are currently in one of the best positions going in to next season I can remember and I for one will be getting my season ticket and supporting this club regardless. I WILL however reconsider buying fanzines or reading messageboards if all people are going to do is squabble about who is the 'REAL' preacher of the truth.

Could you start your own message board, as common sense has no place here.

[SpankwiR]

Sod that I've seen the amount grief Pete gets on here. I might set one up just for lady QPR fans think that would be quite nice. They could discuss "being on the Jam on matchday""sexy players" or "why not get our boob's out when rangers score"

[ChelmsfordRs]

a good read....for me sums up the paranoia at the club, and this was a few yrs ago
i hope we have moved on as a club and fanbase?
the place seems happier now....
i suppose the club had to deny the gates were not locked, or else panic spreads and any new investors walk away...who were the electrical sponsors we had, they left...."j and d"??

with facebook, mbs,phones...info gets spread so fast...the offy site is so slow to update, news has been and gone while they update.

The most interesting sentence in this whole thread

[IsleworthRanger]

Could you start your own message board, as common sense has no place here.

[coneysboots]

Sod that I've seen the amount grief Pete gets on here. I might set one up just for lady QPR fans think that would be quite nice. They could discuss "being on the Jam on matchday""sexy players" or "why not get our boob's out when rangers score"

Let me know when it's up and running will you!