Comparisons

[72bus]

Sack Marti , saying that someone would probably make celar player manager

[topperharley]

How we feeling about that poll now chaps?

Any point in moving Marti on?

I've edited the poll, hopefully less insulting.

[cross it Dave]

You little tinker

[WeAreQPR12]

Just given you a sarcastic like Dave.

[cross it Dave]

Spot on Topper

[topperharley]

Bit of common sense hooper. Tbh plenty saying that Marti isn't untouchable but that's just an excuse to stick the knife into his back. I actually think toppers attitude to the manager is highly insulting. Not one poster has actually given me a name for a manager out there that would see us fans get excited about.

Insulting? Get a grip.

Merely pointing out a similarity i see in another club. We're struggling, and as much as i like Marti, he's digging a hole that's getting harder and harder to get out of. I can't think of anyone better either, doesn't change the fact we're currently poor.

We're 23rd in the table.

We were 23rd in the table when he took charge.

He needs to turn this around or he's going to end up out the door no matter what you think.

[DJ Hooper W12]

Yes unfortunately it’s majority rule. It’s happened at a lot of clubs where complacency sets in and only a brave massive clear out makes a change. Obviously we don’t have premier league money but l don’t think we have progressed at all in the last few seasons and our current position backs that up. It’s not going to happen overnight but where we are now makes really difficult to see a bit of light. Mid table would be amazing. Is that too much to ask of a club this size

[WeAreQPR12]

What remains constant in our last few seasons of being poor is the players. Surely every manager can’t be useless for me it’s more about attitude and ability of those on the pitch. Effort definitely better this season but quality sadly missing To keep changing manager because that’s the easy option not the answer. As seen at Utd since fergie left

Bit of common sense hooper. Tbh plenty saying that Marti isn't untouchable but that's just an excuse to stick the knife into his back. I actually think toppers attitude to the manager is highly insulting. Not one poster has actually given me a name for a manager out there that would see us fans get excited about.

[DJ Hooper W12]

What remains constant in our last few seasons of being poor is the players. Surely every manager can’t be useless for me it’s more about attitude and ability of those on the pitch. Effort definitely better this season but quality sadly missing To keep changing manager because that’s the easy option not the answer. As seen at Utd since fergie left

[WeAreQPR12]

I think you should book some holiday mate.

[topperharley]

EFL managers average 11 months in post. That's a fact. Once every decade a manager will leave a club on a high on his own terms after several years in post. These are managerial gods like Ferguson or Klopp. The rest get sacked or jump before they're pushed. They don't even have to be particularly awful or hapless, if club appears to be treading water the manager WILL get the boot. Marti is no different - that's the situation he's working in.

I wonder how invested the board are in Nourry and Marti, or how much Nourry is in Marti depending on how they've set this up.

These signings, how much has influence has Nourry / Marti had? 50/50?

As it stands, since Marti came on i'd say only Dembele has been somewhat a success.

Saito could be, Andersen has shown some signs, Nardi looks ok but i feel he's got a ways to go to command the defence.

Are the new signings not working because of Marti for whatever reason?

Point is, does all the blame for the frankly terrible start to the season fall at Marti's feet? I kind of feel it does because we look terrible. We 100% had identity and purpose under him last season, and it's seemingly all gone now.

We really want him to do well but he's 12 months (to the day) into his tenure and we are officially, by the league table, right back where we started.

[Abseits]

EFL managers average 11 months in post. That's a fact. Once every decade a manager will leave a club on a high on his own terms after several years in post. These are managerial gods like Ferguson or Klopp. The rest get sacked or jump before they're pushed. They don't even have to be particularly awful or hapless, if club appears to be treading water the manager WILL get the boot. Marti is no different - that's the situation he's working in.

[WeAreQPR12]

this thread, guess we're all bored at work but wow!

[topperharley]

It's nothing to do with the managers, despite spending money it is a near impossible task to replace the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Rudd VN, Cole, Schmeichel, Stam and Keane etc The market has gone bonkers but the equivilent class of players are now playing for City, who can afford them through dubious finances.

A new manager should get Utd into the top 4 but they are miles away from being tittle contenders under any manager. Liverpool will soon find this out when Salah moves on.

As soon as the class of 92 had retired, Fergie retired.

More a different kind of game / player, united have spent far more then City the last few years. But i get your point, most of the top clubs have dubious financials i'm sure.

[SheepRanger]

It's nothing to do with the managers, despite spending money it is a near impossible task to replace the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Rudd VN, Cole, Schmeichel, Stam and Keane etc The market has gone bonkers but the equivilent class of players are now playing for City, who can afford them through dubious finances.

A new manager should get Utd into the top 4 but they are miles away from being tittle contenders under any manager. Liverpool will soon find this out when Salah moves on.

As soon as the class of 92 had retired, Fergie retired.