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  • SheepRanger
    Administrator
    • Apr 2018
    • 8331

    #1036
    Originally posted by davieqpr

    Once your aged 18 you are either offered a contract at end of season or released being over age for an academy.
    Fair enough. I didn't realise the academy ended at the Development Squad (U18s)

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    • Jonny
      Apprentice
      • Aug 2009
      • 163

      #1037
      Our players have mostly been given extended 3rd year scholarships as they move from u18s to u21s (dev squad).

      This year, a couple - Leahy and Tuck - have signed pro contracts, but that’s not the norm, certainly not at QPR in recent years.

      Tuck is well capable of playing at champ level when fills out a bit.

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      • ArcticHoop
        Silver Seat
        • Apr 2012
        • 1557

        #1038
        Darren Witcoop claims that Begovic is now close to join Newcastle and we are looking Mark Travers from Bournemouth as areplacement. Other names are consired too, but did´t mention more names

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        • SheepRanger
          Administrator
          • Apr 2018
          • 8331

          #1039
          Marc Leonard

          QPR have had an interest in Brighton midfielder Marc Leonard but other clubs are 'pushing harder' to sign him, Darren Witcoop has said on X.

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          • Isleworth116
            Bronze Seat
            • Jul 2020
            • 678

            #1040
            Originally posted by SheepRanger
            Young, played lot on loan last season. Worth considering.

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            • QPROslo
              Silver Seat
              • Dec 2010
              • 1137

              #1041
              Originally posted by lincoln ranger

              I thought we gave him a new deal? Last season? Maybe 1 year left? Not sure, I stand to be corrected.
              This is how I understand the Kelman situation:

              We started the January transfer window with no funds to strengthen the team. We had to be creative, to find ways to strengthen, if we should increase the chance of avoiding relegation. The loan deal of Dozzell was a gift sent from heaven and contributed well. Firstly, it freed up salaries of around £10k a week. On top, I assume we received a loan fee as he went to a competitor. It was also helpful that Sutton took Duke-McKenna on loan.

              However, this might have been enough to get the three first signings across the line (Frey, Hodge, Hayden), but we needed a bit of extra creativity to afford Andersen.

              This is where Kelman came into the picture. Kelmans contract was due to expire in June 2024. The club announced that we had extended it in connection with the loan deal signed with Wigan in January this year. Contracts for players registered for the first team have to run until the end of the season (they cannot expire in the midst of a season), so we extended it until 30 June 2025.

              I am quite sure Marti doesn't expect Kelman to feature for QPR next season. He is not part of Martis plans, as he is simply not good enough. So why did we prolong his contract? Here is my take:

              By extending Kelmans contract, the cost of amortising the acquisition costs of Kelman (the original transfer fee and any sign on fee we paid in 2020) will be spread over a longer period, which led to a saving in the the way FFP is computed in the 23/24 season. .

              What does this mean in monetary term: Lets say we paid £600.000 for Kelman on a three year contract in 2000. This meant that we had to amortise the costs over three seasons, which would be £200.000 per season. When we extended the contract for the first time in 2023, the amortisation for the third season was suddenly spread over two seasons, with £100.000 in 22/23 and £100.000 in 23/24.

              By extending his contract again (for a second time) in January 2024, we managed to spread the final £100.000 over two season, so £50.000 in 23/24 and £50.000 in 24/25. Hence, we freed up £50.000 in January (in the way FFP is calculated) that could go towards securing a deal with Andersen. We were sailing so close the the wind that this small amount was make it or break it when it came to Andersens signing.

              Kelman's salary is modest, so the club took the risk, knowing it would allow us to sign Andersen without jeopardising the FFP limits. I think it was a clever move.

              I think we will look to loan Kelman to Wigan or any other club, or to sell him or let him leave on the free, if he finds a new club. He is not part of our plans. But right now, he is contracted to June 2025.

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              • Sleeping Giants
                Silver Seat
                • Mar 2009
                • 3211

                #1042
                Originally posted by QPROslo

                This is how I understand the Kelman situation:

                We started the January transfer window with no funds to strengthen the team. We had to be creative, to find ways to strengthen, if we should increase the chance of avoiding relegation. The loan deal of Dozzell was a gift sent from heaven and contributed well. Firstly, it freed up salaries of around £10k a week. On top, I assume we received a loan fee as he went to a competitor. It was also helpful that Sutton took Duke-McKenna on loan.

                However, this might have been enough to get the three first signings across the line (Frey, Hodge, Hayden), but we needed a bit of extra creativity to afford Andersen.

                This is where Kelman came into the picture. Kelmans contract was due to expire in June 2024. The club announced that we had extended it in connection with the loan deal signed with Wigan in January this year. Contracts for players registered for the first team have to run until the end of the season (they cannot expire in the midst of a season), so we extended it until 30 June 2025.

                I am quite sure Marti doesn't expect Kelman to feature for QPR next season. He is not part of Martis plans, as he is simply not good enough. So why did we prolong his contract? Here is my take:

                By extending Kelmans contract, the cost of amortising the acquisition costs of Kelman (the original transfer fee and any sign on fee we paid in 2020) will be spread over a longer period, which led to a saving in the the way FFP is computed in the 23/24 season. .

                What does this mean in monetary term: Lets say we paid £600.000 for Kelman on a three year contract in 2000. This meant that we had to amortise the costs over three seasons, which would be £200.000 per season. When we extended the contract for the first time in 2023, the amortisation for the third season was suddenly spread over two seasons, with £100.000 in 22/23 and £100.000 in 23/24.

                By extending his contract again (for a second time) in January 2024, we managed to spread the final £100.000 over two season, so £50.000 in 23/24 and £50.000 in 24/25. Hence, we freed up £50.000 in January (in the way FFP is calculated) that could go towards securing a deal with Andersen. We were sailing so close the the wind that this small amount was make it or break it when it came to Andersens signing.

                Kelman's salary is modest, so the club took the risk, knowing it would allow us to sign Andersen without jeopardising the FFP limits. I think it was a clever move.

                I think we will look to loan Kelman to Wigan or any other club, or to sell him or let him leave on the free, if he finds a new club. He is not part of our plans. But right now, he is contracted to June 2025.
                So FFP ironicly forced us to spend money on another year of Kelman's salary just to stick within their stupid calculations that do nothing to help football and everything to hurt it. FFP should be scrapped.

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                • SheepRanger
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 8331

                  #1043
                  Originally posted by QPROslo

                  This is how I understand the Kelman situation:

                  We started the January transfer window with no funds to strengthen the team. We had to be creative, to find ways to strengthen, if we should increase the chance of avoiding relegation. The loan deal of Dozzell was a gift sent from heaven and contributed well. Firstly, it freed up salaries of around £10k a week. On top, I assume we received a loan fee as he went to a competitor. It was also helpful that Sutton took Duke-McKenna on loan.

                  However, this might have been enough to get the three first signings across the line (Frey, Hodge, Hayden), but we needed a bit of extra creativity to afford Andersen.

                  This is where Kelman came into the picture. Kelmans contract was due to expire in June 2024. The club announced that we had extended it in connection with the loan deal signed with Wigan in January this year. Contracts for players registered for the first team have to run until the end of the season (they cannot expire in the midst of a season), so we extended it until 30 June 2025.

                  I am quite sure Marti doesn't expect Kelman to feature for QPR next season. He is not part of Martis plans, as he is simply not good enough. So why did we prolong his contract? Here is my take:

                  By extending Kelmans contract, the cost of amortising the acquisition costs of Kelman (the original transfer fee and any sign on fee we paid in 2020) will be spread over a longer period, which led to a saving in the the way FFP is computed in the 23/24 season. .

                  What does this mean in monetary term: Lets say we paid £600.000 for Kelman on a three year contract in 2000. This meant that we had to amortise the costs over three seasons, which would be £200.000 per season. When we extended the contract for the first time in 2023, the amortisation for the third season was suddenly spread over two seasons, with £100.000 in 22/23 and £100.000 in 23/24.

                  By extending his contract again (for a second time) in January 2024, we managed to spread the final £100.000 over two season, so £50.000 in 23/24 and £50.000 in 24/25. Hence, we freed up £50.000 in January (in the way FFP is calculated) that could go towards securing a deal with Andersen. We were sailing so close the the wind that this small amount was make it or break it when it came to Andersens signing.

                  Kelman's salary is modest, so the club took the risk, knowing it would allow us to sign Andersen without jeopardising the FFP limits. I think it was a clever move.

                  I think we will look to loan Kelman to Wigan or any other club, or to sell him or let him leave on the free, if he finds a new club. He is not part of our plans. But right now, he is contracted to June 2025.
                  Thanks for that Oslo, I had forgotten the one year extension. I think I rely too much on transfermarkt who have old information. Great insight into the strange workings of FFP!

                  https://www.transfermarkt.com/charli...spieler/633492

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                  • LoftusRoadLad
                    W12 Seat
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 19582

                    #1044
                    Murphy Mahoney signs new deal

                    https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/2024/june...igns-new-deal/


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                    • knocker
                      Silver Seat
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4009

                      #1045
                      Originally posted by LoftusRoadLad
                      Extra long studs in his boots would help. Too short for a top class goalkeeper.

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                      • Isleworth116
                        Bronze Seat
                        • Jul 2020
                        • 678

                        #1046
                        Originally posted by knocker

                        Extra long studs in his boots would help. Too short for a top class goalkeeper.
                        How tall is he?

                        Fair play to him, decent loan last season.

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                        • Abseits
                          Silver Seat
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 4968

                          #1047
                          Originally posted by Isleworth116

                          How tall is he?

                          Fair play to him, decent loan last season.
                          Hard to find the info. I made a point of comparing him to Chair when I found a photo of them stood by each other in training. Top of head was level with shoulder so I calculate Mahoney must be about 3'9"...

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                          • SheepRanger
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 8331

                            #1048
                            Originally posted by knocker

                            Extra long studs in his boots would help. Too short for a top class goalkeeper.
                            Murphy 6'2"

                            Walsh 6'3"

                            Jordan Pickford 6'1"

                            Peter Shilton 6'0"

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                            • knocker
                              Silver Seat
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 4009

                              #1049
                              Originally posted by SheepRanger

                              Murphy 6'2"

                              Walsh 6'3"

                              Jordan Pickford 6'1"

                              Peter Shilton 6'0"
                              If he's 6'2" he must have had a growth spurt while at Swindon. Remember him in goal against Sheffield United at loftus road, and they totally bullied him.

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                              • SheepRanger
                                Administrator
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 8331

                                #1050
                                Originally posted by knocker

                                If he's 6'2" he must have had a growth spurt while at Swindon. Remember him in goal against Sheffield United at loftus road, and they totally bullied him.
                                No idea mate...........Mr Google said so

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